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Old Jun 16, 2021 | 09:34 AM
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Good news on both fronts Dave. LMK when you are ready for the lap top.
I have given up searching for the perfect match to the OEM colour and have decided on Duplicolor PS2.
I will paint all parts from the AC vent to the firewall that have silver on them, this is a total of five pieces for me.
This is not what I envisioned but I have spent enough time on it.😏
 
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Old Jul 12, 2021 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dedwards0323
John&Terry got me "hooked up" with the DRB3 Emulator. Mine works fine - I was able to sync my new sensors on the PS of the car and have synced others that have replaced all of the sensors. Just remember you need a TPMS scanner to trigger the wheel sensors when the software asks you to.
Hey guys,

New to the forum. I have 2004 Xfire Coupe. I purchased the emulator and the Micropod II. I followed the install procedures to a tee but can't get the emulator to run. The shortcut path doesn't open. If I just put in 172.22.22.22 it comes up with a micropod screen but nothing resembling the DBRIII emulator. Suggestions???
 
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Old Jul 13, 2021 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by coachkozy
Hey guys,

New to the forum. I have 2004 Xfire Coupe. I purchased the emulator and the Micropod II. I followed the install procedures to a tee but can't get the emulator to run. The shortcut path doesn't open. If I just put in 172.22.22.22 it comes up with a micropod screen but nothing resembling the DBRIII emulator. Suggestions???
My laptop isn't booting at the moment but if I can get it working again, I can compare installations with you. Until then, perhaps someone else can do so.
Meanwhile the only thing I can offer at the moment is that these were the instructions I followed and it worked immediately : How to install DRBIII Emulator for Micropod 2 on Windows 7 Pro 32-bit | OBDII365.com Official Blog

One other thought is to make sure that you have disabled Internet access before you try to run the shortcut, although I'm not sure what happens to the installation if you fail to do so at any point in time.

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Old Jul 14, 2021 | 11:42 PM
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Thanks Art,

I am going to install a new copy of Windows 7 and turn the internet connection off before I install WiTech and the DRBiii emulator. If that doesn't work I will reach out again.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by coachkozy
Thanks Art,

I am going to install a new copy of Windows 7 and turn the internet connection off before I install WiTech and the DRBiii emulator. If that doesn't work I will reach out again.
I'm able to boot my Windows 7 environment again so if you still have questions, I'll see if I can help.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2021 | 05:37 PM
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Hi , this is probably a rookie mistake, but I misstook Ip for LP "lp" http://localhost:9876/launchExternal...eng_ENG&deviceIp=172.22.22.22 .After correcting that, DRB emulator opened no problem

 
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Old Jul 22, 2021 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by John&Terry
I have only used the emulator to perform a TPMS Relearn (2005 SRT6) and diagnose a defective air bag control module (2007 Roadster). I have tested some other diagnostic functions, but I am not very familiar with its additional capabilities. I think it will perform many other DRB III functions.

Attached is a DRB III manual. If you can please select a function for me to test, I will attempt to see if the emulator can perform it.
TPMS Rookie questions, I’m not putting the sequence together.
I would like to acquire the items required to be able to read/clone my wheel sensors. The dealers have a hard time tracking down the tools.

1) if you know the numbers from the existing TPMsensors, do you still need to trigger them?
2) if trigger is required, can the Autel 601 (or Autel 501) trigger/read Schrader sensors?
The Schrader site does not list any options for Autel.
3) if the Autel cannot read Schrader, any recommendations for relearn tool for Schrader sensors? There appears to be a wide variety on their site. Leaning toward EZ Sensor pad

4) if you have the emulator and know the numbers associated with the 4 sensors do you still need the relearn tool for the sensors before they go onto the wheels.
5)if you have a relearn tool that can apply the numbers to the sensors, why do you need the emulator.

If I’ve missed a post that explains my apologies.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2021 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by UrbanE
TPMS Rookie questions, I’m not putting the sequence together.
I would like to acquire the items required to be able to read/clone my wheel sensors. The dealers have a hard time tracking down the tools.

1) if you know the numbers from the existing TPMsensors, do you still need to trigger them?
2) if trigger is required, can the Autel 601 (or Autel 501) trigger/read Schrader sensors?
The Schrader site does not list any options for Autel.
3) if the Autel cannot read Schrader, any recommendations for relearn tool for Schrader sensors? There appears to be a wide variety on their site. Leaning toward EZ Sensor pad

4) if you have the emulator and know the numbers associated with the 4 sensors do you still need the relearn tool for the sensors before they go onto the wheels.
5)if you have a relearn tool that can apply the numbers to the sensors, why do you need the emulator.

If I’ve missed a post that explains my apologies.
Hopefully, other members who have had experience with cloning sensors can respond to you but I thought I would share my experience which may help clear things up for you.
My TPMS indicatior was on when I bought my car over 2 years ago. I decided to wait until I bought new tires to address the sensor issue. I wanted to go the clone route because I didn't want to have to hunt down a dealer who could 're-learn' the new sensor IDs, nor did I want to build a DRB III Emulator. When I bought my tires at Direct Tire, they advised against cloning the sensor because they were likely dead (because of the car's age) and their IDs couldn't be read. Instead, they installed the sensor that was listed in their database for the car - a Redi-Sensor Dill 7004. They said that they would be happy to activate each sensor for me during a future visit as long as I was able to initiate the 're-learn' sequence for the car, since they had no way to do that.
I put together the DRB III Emulator, and returned to the store a few weeks later. They came out with one of their tire tools (It was some sort of Autel tool), and activated each sensor in sequence as prompted by the Emulator's "re-learn" feature. The TPMS light went out and I drove away a happy man!
So, I can't answer your numbered questions from the point of view of cloning the original sensors but the take-away should be:
If you are able to clone, you shouldn't need to execute the "re-learn" process and, therefore, don't need the dealer's help or the DRB III Emulator.
At least, that's my understanding. Hopefully, someone with direct experience with cloning sensors can chime in.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2021 | 04:59 PM
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ArtS

Thank you. That’s really useful information. Clear and easy to follow

I’ve copied it and saved to my Crossfire folder.

Anyone with cloning experience and clone tool preferences, your insights would be appreciated. Currently have Schrader 33700 sensors. Not married to them. Open to long term suggestions/solutions.

I have 3 sets of wheels for different things and want all sets to be the same, not set off the TPMS dash light and not have to relearn every time.

Very much appreciated and thanks in advance

 
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Old Jul 23, 2021 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by UrbanE
ArtS

Thank you. That’s really useful information. Clear and easy to follow

I’ve copied it and saved to my Crossfire folder.

Anyone with cloning experience and clone tool preferences, your insights would be appreciated. Currently have Schrader 33700 sensors. Not married to them. Open to long term suggestions/solutions.

I have 3 sets of wheels for different things and want all sets to be the same, not set off the TPMS dash light and not have to relearn every time.

Very much appreciated and thanks in advance
You may also want to ask on the Crossfire Facebook groups. Chrysler Crossfire Owners U.S.A. and Chrysler Crossfire Tech-Parts & Rescue are good ones.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2021 | 10:37 AM
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I only have Win7 Pro 64 for use, after three tries I ended up at the Tech Authority Login.
Somewhere, somehow something went amiss.
PLEASE has anyone got an idea what went wrong, John and Terry mentioned they used Win 7 Pro 64.
I read somewhere in this thread about the Tech Authority but I cannot find it again.
Any clues or hints for me please? I have XP home edition at my disposal, but no Win 7.
I am just about at the end of my patience.🤨 I am using a laptop for the first time and the mouse pad is very frustrating to me. I have a Logitech wireless mouse but I cannot get it to work on the laptop, hints?
Thank you in advance.
I actually have two legit copies of Win XP Home Edition in the original folders, my favourite OS as it happens. I worked so fast I needed two computers to do two jobs on them at once. 😜
 

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Old Aug 26, 2021 | 10:56 AM
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When I had so much trouble it was the fact that I had installed that os.
when i got ahold of a factory loaded os hdd or ssd, then it all worked just like evryone else' did
a virgin install of a legit copy should work or a duped hdd for the copy
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Old Aug 26, 2021 | 11:06 AM
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It should be noted that the latest clone version of the Micropod2 has a defect in it that will render it only partially useful on the Crossfire and all 2005 down Chrysler vehicles. Fortunately, the solution to the problem is fairly simple, if you have access to a precision soldering iron and someone with skills. I did not come up with the fix, but I am sharing it here, because we have an obvious interest in having the tools to maintain these older vehicles.

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Well due to popular demand I decided to just post the info needed to fix these clones. It is a little tricky, def need a very fine point solder iron. I also used a solder station with varying temp so I didn't overheat the trace. Also very important to use a ground strap, this is part of the reason I fried my first one. But mostly using T-pins to probe the board while it was powered on :P Like I mentioned before, the issue is the IC with marking 65 TI MAP doesnt have it's ground. The trace between the via and the pin is bad. What I did was use an Exacto knife to scrape the coating off the top of the via, and very carefully make a solder bridge from the pin to the via. I considered using a very fine piece of wire as a trace but if you have ever tried it, you would prob know why I decided not to. I made sure the IC pin had ground but wasn't accidently shorted to the pin next to it. Also make sure it's not shorted to R32 which is very close by. I figured this out partly because there is another IC with marking 65 TI MAP on the inside of the board and it had ground at the same pin. To be clear, the IC with ground issue is on same board side as the ARM chip as seen in photos. You DO NOT need to separate the boards to fix it. And that's it, when this IC has it's ground the output won't be floating high and the comm signal can be read by ARM chip.
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Original forum thread: https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f310...73/index2.html


I can confirm that the fix above repairs the Micropod2 clone, and makes it operate properly.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2021 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by nemiro
It should be noted that the latest clone version of the Micropod2 has a defect in it that will render it only partially useful on the Crossfire and all 2005 down Chrysler vehicles. Fortunately, the solution to the problem is fairly simple, if you have access to a precision soldering iron and someone with skills. I did not come up with the fix, but I am sharing it here, because we have an obvious interest in having the tools to maintain these older vehicles.

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Well due to popular demand I decided to just post the info needed to fix these clones. It is a little tricky, def need a very fine point solder iron. I also used a solder station with varying temp so I didn't overheat the trace. Also very important to use a ground strap, this is part of the reason I fried my first one. But mostly using T-pins to probe the board while it was powered on :P Like I mentioned before, the issue is the IC with marking 65 TI MAP doesnt have it's ground. The trace between the via and the pin is bad. What I did was use an Exacto knife to scrape the coating off the top of the via, and very carefully make a solder bridge from the pin to the via. I considered using a very fine piece of wire as a trace but if you have ever tried it, you would prob know why I decided not to. I made sure the IC pin had ground but wasn't accidently shorted to the pin next to it. Also make sure it's not shorted to R32 which is very close by. I figured this out partly because there is another IC with marking 65 TI MAP on the inside of the board and it had ground at the same pin. To be clear, the IC with ground issue is on same board side as the ARM chip as seen in photos. You DO NOT need to separate the boards to fix it. And that's it, when this IC has it's ground the output won't be floating high and the comm signal can be read by ARM chip.
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Original forum thread: https://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f310...73/index2.html


I can confirm that the fix above repairs the Micropod2 clone, and makes it operate properly.
Please can you explain how you split it apart. I can se the parting line but how do you split it apart? Just pry it open or …….
 

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Old Aug 28, 2021 | 12:58 PM
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Pry it open. It shouldn't be glued.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2021 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by nemiro
Pry it open. It shouldn't be glued.
Thanks, it came apart quite easily. Now for the tough part.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2021 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by John&Terry
No need to apologize. I also shuffle projects around all the time. Glad to hear you are preceding ahead with this one. We are all here to help. Plenty of disks left if anyone else needs one.
Hi, you mentioned you had to tweak Win7 Pro 64 bit, can you tell me what you did please?
I have Win XP as well do you think that would be easier?
Have you tried the soldering of the board connection to get the setup to work better? This seems the way to go to get more functions working, I am not sure my micro soldering skills are up to the task though.
The best I have got is reaching the Tech Authority website to which you have to be a paid up member to. I also got some screen with a lines that formed squares but nothing else.
Do you have any tips for me please?
 
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Old Sep 4, 2021 | 07:54 PM
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Does anyone know if this will run using Windows XP?
Windows 7 Pro seems to be a no go for me.
The mod recently discussed makes this seem like the real deal, fixing the TPMS is hardly worth the effort unless it is just the first step.
Lets get this on track and be a real benefit to us.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2021 | 08:27 PM
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I'm running on Win7. I am using a non connected computer. Will check my settings when I get.home in a couple of days.

 
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Old Sep 5, 2021 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
Hi, you mentioned you had to tweak Win7 Pro 64 bit, can you tell me what you did please?
I have Win XP as well do you think that would be easier?
Have you tried the soldering of the board connection to get the setup to work better? This seems the way to go to get more functions working, I am not sure my micro soldering skills are up to the task though.
The best I have got is reaching the Tech Authority website to which you have to be a paid up member to. I also got some screen with a lines that formed squares but nothing else.
Do you have any tips for me please?
I'm using Windows 7 Pro 64 bit (build 6.1.7601 with Service Pack 1) and no tweaks were required. I just followed the instructions located here: How to install DRBIII Emulator for Micropod 2 on Windows 7 Pro 32-bit | OBDII365.com Official Blog

If you are getting a login prompt for Tech Authority's Website, then it sounds lie you are still connected to the Internet. That may be you problem, as step 24 of the instructions state to disable LAN and WLAN connections. For my Dell laptop, I just put it in Airplane Mode which disables all of the network adapters.

ArtS

 
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