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Old Nov 19, 2019 | 11:48 AM
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Default No crank, good RCM, good SKREEM, I’m lost

Update #7. Received my items back from SOS (along with a extra $300 key as an apology), installed them, and SHE FIRED RIGHT UP !!!! Just a simple misprogram. I’m happy with their services. Everybody makes mistakes, they made one, owned it, and even threw me compensation. They will be receiving a good review from me ! Thank you to everybody for all the help.


Update #6: I contacted SOS and gave them the information I provided in update #5 and we think we figured out the problem. The “test car” they used to test my SKREEM & ECU was a automatic. We believe they mis-programmed my components to a Automatic. This makes perfect sense.
The clutch interlock switch is sending the signal, but that signal differs from the automatics “park selector” signal. Therefore the ECU is not interpreting the signal being sent, to the which in turn refuses to allow the starter to be signaled. As always, I will keep the post updated for all future people that may have a similar issue so they can go through the things I did to diagnose this issue.



Update #5:
1.The pulse module is NOT sending the starter a signal
2. The pulse module is NOT receiving a signal from the clutch interlock switch
3. The Clutch Interlock Switch IS sending out BOTH a ignition signal AND the clutch switch signal. Somehow between the Pulse Module and Clutch interlock system there is a break in power. Ran out of time for today and need to head to work. I will keep this thread updated.

Update #4 : Received my repaired SKREEM unit back from SOS. Software was “Corrupt”. Hooked everything back up and now getting NO crank whatsoever. All plugs/wires checked, got power. RCM is good, skreem good. Brand new crank position sensor, brand new camshaft position sensor. How can I eliminate the starter being bad before I got buy a battery ?


Update #3 : No start. Car cranks twice then try 3 nothing. Sent skreem, ECU, and key to SOS.

Update#2 : Battery was retested under load and is in more than good shape. I ran a new thick ground to the bell housing as seen here:




https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...le-engine.html




Also cleaned terminals, new nuts, grease, pads. Seems to be doing fine so far. RCM is čn route to DJ out west for the works.



Update#1. Car randomly started, drove fine no warning lights on the dash. When I got home, I turned it off, started it again, and this time a ton of lights on the dash came on and the spoiler was up. Turned it off, started again, no lights in the dash ? I’m so confused
Getting a no crank issue.
Full power, lights/radio/spoiler
Battery tested (good)
Tested two RCM’s
Checked underhood fuses including 200amp next to battery
Tested two Camshaft position sensors
Terminals are cleaned/tightened
Doors lock/unlock with key fob (skreem symptom)
After removing/putting negative battery cable I get no crank also. (Skreem symptom)

ORIGINAL POST: Car was driving fine, came out from work and started for a split second then died, now won’t even attempt to crank.
 

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Old Nov 19, 2019 | 03:44 PM
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Perhaps the starter has gone bad..
 
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Old Nov 19, 2019 | 07:53 PM
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Update. Car randomly started, drove fine no warning lights on the dash. When I got home, I turned it off, started it again, and this time a ton of lights on the dash came on and the spoiler was up. Turned it off, started again, no lights in the dash ? I’m so confused
 
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Default Re: No start, no crank, full power, good fob

Originally Posted by Rocafellafw11
Battery tested (good).
(Insert a photo of Grumpy Cat with text: "NO" here.)

Do not pass "GO". Do not collect $200.
1) Replace the battery
2) Do one of these mods and let us know how things go:
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...le-engine.html
 

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Old Nov 19, 2019 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pizzaguy
(Insert a photo of Grumpy Cat with text: "NO" here.)

Do not pass "GO". Do not collect $200.
1) Replace the battery
2) Do one of these mods and let us know how things go:
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...le-engine.html
Deep down I really do this it’s a ground/connection issue, so I appreciate that info big time ! Thank you !
 
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Old Nov 20, 2019 | 01:37 PM
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Update: Battery was retested under load and is in more than good shape. I ran a new thick ground to the bell housing as seen here:




https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...le-engine.html


Also cleaned terminals, new nuts, grease, pads. Seems to be doing fine so far. RCM is čn route to DJ out west for the works.

 
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Old Dec 14, 2019 | 05:24 PM
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Update #4 : Received my repaired SKREEM unit back from SOS. Software was “Corrupt”. Hooked everything back up and now getting NO crank whatsoever. All plugs/wires checked, got power. RCM is good, skreem good, brand new Crank position sensor, brand new camshaft position sensor. How can I eliminate the starter being bad before I got buy a battery ?
 
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Old Dec 15, 2019 | 01:32 PM
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How do you know the SKREEM is "good." Has the car ever run since you had it worked on? What does "Software was corrupt" mean. Was that the SOS diagnosis? Did the Skreem require physical repair or "software"? So many options to consider.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2019 | 01:34 PM
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How do you know the SKREEM is "good." Has the car ever run since you had it worked on? What does "Software was corrupt" mean. Was that the SOS diagnosis? Did the Skreem require physical repair or "software"? So many options to consider.
The car did not run since I got the parts back no. The software that causes the skreem issue was repaired. They tested my ecu, key, and skreem on another crossfire before sending it back. No physical repair.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 01:33 PM
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Hello Wolfstalker!
what was final resolution on your nonstart? Had similar challenge last Friday and now vehicle sitting!
Had RCM resoldered 1 3/4 ago by an engineer (confident that is not the problem) and car has been perfect since. ...Until now. turned over 3 times, then engine would not start. Dash lights up as should, headlites fine, but car reads "start error". Appreciate your response. Bob D
 

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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 01:39 PM
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Hello Wolfstalker!
what was final resolution on your nonstart? Had similar challenge last Friday and not w vehgicle sitting!

No resolution yet. Using this diagram I have concluded that:
A: The pulse module is not sending the starter a signal
B. The pulse module is not receiving a signal from the clutch interlock switch
C. The Clutch Interlock Switch IS sending out BOTH a ignition signal AND the clutch switch signal. Somehow between the Pulse Module and Clutch interlock system there is a break in power. Ran out of time for today and need to head to work. I will keep this thread updated.

 
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Rocafellafw11
No resolution yet. Using this diagram I have concluded that:
A: The pulse module is not sending the starter a signal
B. The pulse module is not receiving a signal from the clutch interlock switch
C. The Clutch Interlock Switch IS sending out BOTH a ignition signal AND the clutch switch signal. Somehow between the Pulse Module and Clutch interlock system there is a break in power. Ran out of time for today and need to head to work. I will keep this thread updated.
You are way past anything I understand. I was asking the guy that sent his parts out for service what luck he has had with the repair, which he said was programming, not a physical repair of the SKREEM module. All I know is that when I sent my SKREEM module, ECM and Key fobs to MDP they fixed whatever was wrong in a single day, sent them back, we installed them and the car fired right up. It continues to function perfectly. How they did this, I have no idea. All I know is that MDP can repair a non-functioning SKREEM and return it quickly, ready for a simple "plug and play" installation. So, based on my experience, I would say that is the way to address this situation. There may be cars that have other problems, or modules they can't fix, but what they did worked for me. I rate Brian and MDP as 100%. They are as near as your computer and your local post office.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 05:18 PM
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Wolfstalker is right, it sounds like your screem is not allowing the signal to get past the ignition, or you have a defective pulse module.?
 
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wolfstalker
You are way past anything I understand. I was asking the guy that sent his parts out for service what luck he has had with the repair, which he said was programming, not a physical repair of the SKREEM module. All I know is that when I sent my SKREEM module, ECM and Key fobs to MDP they fixed whatever was wrong in a single day, sent them back, we installed them and the car fired right up. It continues to function perfectly. How they did this, I have no idea. All I know is that MDP can repair a non-functioning SKREEM and return it quickly, ready for a simple "plug and play" installation. So, based on my experience, I would say that is the way to address this situation. There may be cars that have other problems, or modules they can't fix, but what they did worked for me. I rate Brian and MDP as 100%. They are as near as your computer and your local post office.
Yes I actually sent the Key fob, ecu, and skreem to a reputable company called SOS that tested my parts in a crossfire numerous times before they sent it back. They said there is a small chance they may have malfunctioned but it’s unlikely. I’m trying to narrow it down as much as possible before spending another two weeks waiting for parts ! Thank you for your response.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 11:14 PM
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Update #6: I contacted SOS and gave them the information I provided in update #5 and we think we figured out the problem. The “test car” they used to test my SKREEM & ECU was a automatic. We believe they mis-programmed my components to a Automatic. This makes perfect sense.
The clutch interlock switch is sending the signal, but that signal differs from the automatics “park selector” signal. Therefore the ECU is not interpreting the signal being sent, to the which in turn refuses to allow the starter to be signaled. As always, I will keep the post updated for all future people that may have a similar issue so they can go through the things I did to diagnose this issue.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 11:26 PM
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We too sent (well drove, since we live close enough) our Skreem, keys, and ECU to MDP and they fixed them, then programmed a new set we found on ebay. They were repairing 4 other Skreem sets for Crossfire owners. Hope this helps. Brian and Justin are very nice to do business with and honest. Turn around was fast. Car is an 07 coupe.
 

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Old Dec 19, 2019 | 12:20 AM
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Awesome !! It is really cool to see options out there and companies still supporting these cars we love so much. It’s nice to know besides SOS and NeedsWings there are people out there willing to help with issues like this. Thank you for the advice !

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We too sent (well drove, since we live close enough) our Skreem, keys, and ECU to MDP and they fixed them, then programmed a new set we found on ebay. They were repairing 4 other Skreem sets for Crossfire owners. Hope this helps. Brian and Justin are very nice to do business with and honest. Turn around was fast. Car is an 07 coupe.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2019 | 10:20 AM
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You are more than welcome. I hope your car is all set. It sounds like you have the knowledge to take good care of it. My husband is doing all the suggested preventative mods, now that mine is up and running again. I just found this site full of manuals and such. I am sure it is noted on this site, so you probably have already seen it, but just in case . . .

Happy holidays to you and your family!
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Old Dec 22, 2019 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by blueinsrq
You are more than welcome. I hope your car is all set. It sounds like you have the knowledge to take good care of it. My husband is doing all the suggested preventative mods, now that mine is up and running again. I just found this site full of manuals and such. I am sure it is noted on this site, so you probably have already seen it, but just in case . . .

Happy holidays to you and your family!
BlueinSrq
Most of that was copied from this forum, the guy that ran that forum was a member here. This forum predates that forum by a lot of years and contains some material copied from here.
None of those manuals thanked the original finder of them, I know as I contributed in a small manner by adding some of them.
On this forum, those manuals and more can be found here. CLICK
A collection of problems and their solutions can be found here. CLICK
 

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Old Dec 23, 2019 | 02:51 PM
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Hi, onehundred80.

That's not very respectful on their part. I am sorry to hear it, but also glad to have yet another chance to thank those of you who contributed to this and other sites and continue to do so. The shameful way the manufacturers washed their hands of Crossfire owners is equaled by the determination and camaraderie found here. Happy holidays to you all!
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