I have run a couple of searches for threads that mention the EuroCharged Tune for the N/A cars, and while I am coming up with bits and pieces that mention the tune, I can't find any specific threads regarding the tune.

I would like to hear from anyone that has the EuroCharged Tune, any modifications you may have, and what your thoughts are as far as performance increases, fuel mileage increase/decrease, etc. I really like the fact that the website mentions "increased throttle response". It seems as the electronic throttle has a lag.

I am interested in modifying my XF for performance. The car will remain unmolested visually. I may wind up with an SRT-6 eventually.... anyone ever remove the fixed whale tail spoiler and swap it for the N/A spoiler? I think the whale tail spoiler takes away from the fastback look. I really like the way the *** end of the N/A cars look. It also seems the painted N/A wheels keep a better appearance over time as well, I see lots of SRT wheels with crazing and cracks in the clearcoat.

My N/A is a pretty quick little car, but I believe my 1988 Z52 A/T Vette would take it off the line. I think the XF would get it in the top end though.

Thanks guys!!

Jared

 

Try this for a start.CLICK

 

I'm just waiting for payday. I will be picking up a used TB and MAF from the same seller.

While I probably won't do the MB cover right away, everything to do the conversion is in my "watch" list on eBay.

So I will have the 74mm TB and MAF.... I would really like to hear from anyone that has the tune and what their experience has been.

Jared

 

The tune seemed to give a little oomph to the car, a year later I got the SRT. No tune on it but definitely more oomph. 😀

 

A Sprint Booster will give you quicker throttle response. No increase in horsepower but you will feel a big difference to acceleration. A good first investment in my opinion.

 

That's interesting. Definitely added to my "buy it" list!!

For anyone else reading, here is a link..... https://www.sprintboostersales.com/S...r_V3--SPRCY004

Jared

 

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Check my signature, all my mods are there. The sprint booster (to me a waste of $) just make the car believe your pushing the pedal further than you are. Its like taking half (my words) the distance of the pedal for full pedal travel. In my opinion, it does nothing except make the pedal travel much shorter. I consider it if you press the pedal 1 inch its like pressing it 2-3 inches (press it 2 inches its like 4-5 inches response). That's all in a nutshell.


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It does eliminate the lag caused by fly by wire..

 

In my professional opinion, it (sprint booster) only increases the action (span) of the OEM pedal assembly to throttle body action. If you want to call that eliminating a 'fly-by-wire' lag(?) then that's what you believe. If you increase a response to a pedal push I guess you could think it is eliminating 'some' lag BUT it is just being acted on sooner because of the faster 0 to 100% pedal/throttle body travel response.


In my opinion, it is a lot of $ to have the result of a pedal that only has to be pushed 1/2 the way down instead of all the way down for throttle body full opening (disclaimer, the span of pedal vs TB response is not 1/2 pedal travel to full throttle body opening). That is the way it works, not the actual measured travel of either. Just the same, it is what it is doing electronically.


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Scratch the booster. I don't need a short throw go fast pedal when I just reprogrammed my muscle memory for my new manual tranny car.

Reading your performance oriented mods....

Pioneered Descreened MAF/Debaffled Elbow

74mm TB/74mm MAF MOD, WOW 16 June 2012

Eurocharged ReTuned 18 June 2012

I'm guessing the "WOW" means like WOW!! The 74mm TB and MAF made a noticeable difference!!??

Any dyno results to show for the TB/MAF upgrade and tune? Any increase/decrease in fuel mileage? Do you have CAI?

Jared

 

There are dyno charts on this forum, RWHP with a tune and basic mods like TB and intake is about 190 to 195 hp there about.

 

What is the RWHP for a stock N/A with the manual tranny?

Jared

 

Way back in 09 after I bought my 08 new, I asked about the MAF intake screen, and removal of. If you have the time, please review ( https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...-3-2-m112.html ) from the beginning. It was eventually calculated for about 10 additional HP and totally FREE.


The 74mm SRT-6 TB with a larger MAF housing (using your original MAF sensor) is a documented HP builder for a very reasonable cost.


The Eurocharged tune was done after the descreen/debaffle mod, that tune was IMHO quite good. I then retuned for the SRT-6 TB/MAF housing mod. At that time, retunes were free but not any more. That was quite a jump in performance/fun factor (Yes, WOW).


No on the CAI, never was able to spring the $ for it and really, for a 3.2 and the handling I was VERY HAPPY (as you can prob tell). I wasn't a 'hypermilage' type of guy, just a little kid in an adult body with a heavy foot (mileage wasn't in my future with this car but I do not abuse her too much). No dyno for me, see CAI for reason LOL. GOOD LUCK with your new car, we all have a lot of fun here!


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After a little bit of research, your mods are pretty much the direction I figured I would be going. I also don't plan on buying a CAI, it takes away from the OEM appearance and I believe that unless you have a REALLY restrictive stock intake, power gains are minimal. After having the airbox apart when I changed out my air filters, I believe the stock setup provides more than adequate flow. I was also toying with the possibility of installing the MF cat-back exhaust, but again it takes away from the OEM look and sound (not to mention you don't really get much for $900).

I appreciate the info thus far!!

Jared

 

Of course, you drive an Automatic.Push and go. push harder go more faster right?? But for those of us with 6 spd trannys, the Sprint booster it is a MUST!!! Throttle response is critical, especially if you double clutch the down shifts. The "lag' is time wasted when you need to be shifting quick.
Going from 6th to 5th is easy but going from 6th to third is virtually impossible without double clutching. If you engine brake you need that capability.

As for the Eurocharged tune, I highly recommend them. But not without some other mods to exhaust systems and a good CAI. Get the air through the engine.
The unit form Needswings is highly recommended.

Some will argue the actual numbers but 265 HP vrs 215 HP from the factory, is significant.

 

Lets just agree to disagree. Long before there was a 'sprint-booster' ppl were shifting manual transmissions very well. Single clutch/double clutch, upshift, downshift, all good in the hands of a skilled driver. If you want to blame bad shifts on 'lag'(?) then buy one.


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Where does this 265 hp come from, who put a tuned up engine and ran it on a dyno?
Did this come from adding theoretical hp gained from various mods to the base 215 hp?
There has been no dyno charts on here for a NA that went over 197 rwhp that I have seen. If there has been one please produce it for the record.

 

Everyone has an opinion kid....both my cars have sprint boosters, and I would not leave home without them. I'd never put anything on one of my cars that didn't add something to the mix. The hesitation was ridiculous and the greeks solved it. And my old butt dyno likes them...

 

To believe an engine that comes from the factory cannot be tuned up and modified for a 20% improvement in horsepower is a very special form of stubborn insanity.
265 comes from the Eurocharged claims. No more no less. Get over it ole man

 

Show me the EC claim on hp, a link to the site is fine.