Sticky Ignition Key Fix for all Crossfires 2004 thru 2006
Re: Sticky Ignition Key Fix for all Crossfires 2004 thru 2006
Also there is a problem with the Fan file, I cannot do anything to it, it says it’s a pdf file but the symbol in front of it is not and I keep getting an error notice.
I’ll keep trying to get the other battery post in place.
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Re: Sticky Ignition Key Fix for all Crossfires 2004 thru 2006
Let me start by stating my Crossfire key works fine. I am preparing myself for the sticky key problem that has generated over 1200 posts when only 75,000 cars were made.
I have read this entire forum. It took four hours.
I have a specific question that I suspect those with more than one Crossfire can answer, and those who have done several sticky key repairs may know.
So here goes.
From reading all these posts, I read that the key turns smooth as butter after the fix. I also saw one post that said there is reduced tactile feel when changing key positions after the fix. This got me thinking that the spring and ball under the cover are for detents in the switch. That turning the key pushed the ball against a ring with detends, and when this ball loses lubrication the detents can't push past the stuck ball, the key can't turn, and therein lies the problem. That is my theory.
If I am right, removing the ball and spring makes the detents superfluous, and the key turns like butter. That is what the fix does.
In that case, someone with more than one Crossfire—a before and an after repair car—could turn their keys and feel whether they feel detents or not. Also, someone used to using their key might notice the different feel after the repair.
I am getting to whether feeling detents is a sign that the sticky key repair has not yet been done. Has anyone noticed their key no longer having detents (stops) between positions?
I have read this entire forum. It took four hours.
I have a specific question that I suspect those with more than one Crossfire can answer, and those who have done several sticky key repairs may know.
So here goes.
From reading all these posts, I read that the key turns smooth as butter after the fix. I also saw one post that said there is reduced tactile feel when changing key positions after the fix. This got me thinking that the spring and ball under the cover are for detents in the switch. That turning the key pushed the ball against a ring with detends, and when this ball loses lubrication the detents can't push past the stuck ball, the key can't turn, and therein lies the problem. That is my theory.
If I am right, removing the ball and spring makes the detents superfluous, and the key turns like butter. That is what the fix does.
In that case, someone with more than one Crossfire—a before and an after repair car—could turn their keys and feel whether they feel detents or not. Also, someone used to using their key might notice the different feel after the repair.
I am getting to whether feeling detents is a sign that the sticky key repair has not yet been done. Has anyone noticed their key no longer having detents (stops) between positions?
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Re: Sticky Ignition Key Fix for all Crossfires 2004 thru 2006
The wedge and spring CLEARLY drop into place to keep the locking plunger from being able to move in the "LOCK" position, nothing more.
Also, one reason the key may more a bit easier, is that many of us (I sure do) put a few drops of light oil in the cavity before putting things back together. SOme assemblies have obvious lubrication, others dont, I always add a few drops of light oil in there before I wrap things up.
Re: Sticky Ignition Key Fix for all Crossfires 2004 thru 2006
Mine was an 04, and started developing the sticky key syndrome at about 30K miles. I determined to repair it before I had a major failure, although I did drive it for several months with the condition, being VERY wary of whether it got worse or not, which it never did. However, I finally decided to just do it and get it over with, and I am glad I did.
I noticed afterwards that the sticky key effect was gone, HOWEVER, there is STILL a sense of detents during operation of the key, and if the steering wheel is loaded, (That is, turned slightly after the engine is shut down), you MAY STILL NEED TO TURN THE WHEEL A SLIGHT AMOUNT TO REMOVE THE PRELOAD ON THE KEY. Otherwise, it can STILL be difficult to turn if the steering wheel preload is not released. But it does NOT seem to have a tendency to actually lock up.
So although the sticky key problem is solved, you still need to be aware of the steering wheel position preloading the key when trying to remove it, or turn on the ignition.
Something else I also noticed is that when you go to the "Start" position, you initiate a start sequence, similar to starting an aircraft jet engine. Once you have hit the start position, if you release the key, the "start sequence" will continue and the engine will be started, regardless. It is NOT like a Ford or Chevy, where if you turn the key and start cranking, then release pressure on the key, the starter will cease operation and everything goes back to a dead state. On the Crossfire, when you turn the key, the starting sequence is initiated, and off you go.
Just my two pfennigs.
I noticed afterwards that the sticky key effect was gone, HOWEVER, there is STILL a sense of detents during operation of the key, and if the steering wheel is loaded, (That is, turned slightly after the engine is shut down), you MAY STILL NEED TO TURN THE WHEEL A SLIGHT AMOUNT TO REMOVE THE PRELOAD ON THE KEY. Otherwise, it can STILL be difficult to turn if the steering wheel preload is not released. But it does NOT seem to have a tendency to actually lock up.
So although the sticky key problem is solved, you still need to be aware of the steering wheel position preloading the key when trying to remove it, or turn on the ignition.
Something else I also noticed is that when you go to the "Start" position, you initiate a start sequence, similar to starting an aircraft jet engine. Once you have hit the start position, if you release the key, the "start sequence" will continue and the engine will be started, regardless. It is NOT like a Ford or Chevy, where if you turn the key and start cranking, then release pressure on the key, the starter will cease operation and everything goes back to a dead state. On the Crossfire, when you turn the key, the starting sequence is initiated, and off you go.
Just my two pfennigs.
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Re: Sticky Ignition Key Fix for all Crossfires 2004 thru 2006
Mine was an 04, and started developing the sticky key syndrome at about 30K miles. I determined to repair it before I had a major failure, although I did drive it for several months with the condition, being VERY wary of whether it got worse or not, which it never did. However, I finally decided to just do it and get it over with, and I am glad I did.
I noticed afterwards that the sticky key effect was gone, HOWEVER, there is STILL a sense of detents during operation of the key, and if the steering wheel is loaded, (That is, turned slightly after the engine is shut down), you MAY STILL NEED TO TURN THE WHEEL A SLIGHT AMOUNT TO REMOVE THE PRELOAD ON THE KEY. Otherwise, it can STILL be difficult to turn if the steering wheel preload is not released. But it does NOT seem to have a tendency to actually lock up.
So although the sticky key problem is solved, you still need to be aware of the steering wheel position preloading the key when trying to remove it, or turn on the ignition.
Something else I also noticed is that when you go to the "Start" position, you initiate a start sequence, similar to starting an aircraft jet engine. Once you have hit the start position, if you release the key, the "start sequence" will continue and the engine will be started, regardless. It is NOT like a Ford or Chevy, where if you turn the key and start cranking, then release pressure on the key, the starter will cease operation and everything goes back to a dead state. On the Crossfire, when you turn the key, the starting sequence is initiated, and off you go.
Just my two pfennigs.
I noticed afterwards that the sticky key effect was gone, HOWEVER, there is STILL a sense of detents during operation of the key, and if the steering wheel is loaded, (That is, turned slightly after the engine is shut down), you MAY STILL NEED TO TURN THE WHEEL A SLIGHT AMOUNT TO REMOVE THE PRELOAD ON THE KEY. Otherwise, it can STILL be difficult to turn if the steering wheel preload is not released. But it does NOT seem to have a tendency to actually lock up.
So although the sticky key problem is solved, you still need to be aware of the steering wheel position preloading the key when trying to remove it, or turn on the ignition.
Something else I also noticed is that when you go to the "Start" position, you initiate a start sequence, similar to starting an aircraft jet engine. Once you have hit the start position, if you release the key, the "start sequence" will continue and the engine will be started, regardless. It is NOT like a Ford or Chevy, where if you turn the key and start cranking, then release pressure on the key, the starter will cease operation and everything goes back to a dead state. On the Crossfire, when you turn the key, the starting sequence is initiated, and off you go.
Just my two pfennigs.
Re: Sticky Ignition Key Fix for all Crossfires 2004 thru 2006
Yet ANOTHER satisfied "sticky key" repair customer! As has been written numerous times in this forum, I would never have attempted this fix without the step-by-step tutorials.
I love my '05 Coupe and think that it's one of the most beautiful cars out there. I also thought the same about the '72 Ghia that I drove for 30 years...and they were both built by Karmann.
I love my '05 Coupe and think that it's one of the most beautiful cars out there. I also thought the same about the '72 Ghia that I drove for 30 years...and they were both built by Karmann.
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Something else I also noticed is that when you go to the "Start" position, you initiate a start sequence, similar to starting an aircraft jet engine. Once you have hit the start position, if you release the key, the "start sequence" will continue and the engine will be started, regardless. It is NOT like a Ford or Chevy, where if you turn the key and start cranking, then release pressure on the key, the starter will cease operation and everything goes back to a dead state. On the Crossfire, when you turn the key, the starting sequence is initiated, and off you go.
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