Odd occurrence yesterday. I drove about half a mile to the supermarket. After shopping and trying to start the car the engine turned over but wouldn't start. What was odd is that I swear a couple of times the starter motor continued to turn the engine over even when I'd let go of the key!

It started after about 4 or 5 attempts but the engine light stayed on. I drove it home the half a mile and all seemed well. It didn't seem to go in to 'limp' mode or anything. I tried starting it about an hour later and all seemed normal and the engine light went out as normal once started.

I've been out this morning and it started first time in -1 temperatures and I took it for a 15 minute drive around...no problems at all.

Should the gear select lever (auto) move when the car is not running? I thought it did but mine won't move out of park whilst the engine is not running. All seems normal when running.

Can anyone enlighten me on this oddity?

Cheers,

Pete.

 

[QUOTE=Uk Pete;729105]Odd occurrence yesterday. I drove about half a mile to the supermarket. After shopping and trying to start the car the engine turned over but wouldn't start. What was odd is that I swear a couple of times the starter motor continued to turn the engine over even when I'd let go of the key!

It started after about 4 or 5 attempts but the engine light stayed on. I drove it home the half a mile and all seemed well. It didn't seem to go in to 'limp' mode or anything. I tried starting it about an hour later and all seemed normal and the engine light went out as normal once started.

I've been out this morning and it started first time in -1 temperatures and I took it for a 15 minute drive around...no problems at all.

Should the gear select lever (auto) move when the car is not running? I thought it did but mine won't move out of park whilst the engine is not running. All seems normal when running.

Can anyone enlighten me on this oddity?

Cheers,

weard one Pete! I have not heard of this before. Maybe just one of those things!! I would think as the engine managment light has gone out by its self, all is well. I did have the light come on on the n/a Crossfire once and it went out by its self but had no starting problem related to it! and its been fine since.

 

[QUOTE=Uk Pete;729105]Odd occurrence yesterday. I drove about half a mile to the supermarket. After shopping and trying to start the car the engine turned over but wouldn't start. What was odd is that I swear a couple of times the starter motor continued to turn the engine over even when I'd let go of the key!

It started after about 4 or 5 attempts but the engine light stayed on. I drove it home the half a mile and all seemed well. It didn't seem to go in to 'limp' mode or anything. I tried starting it about an hour later and all seemed normal and the engine light went out as normal once started.

I've been out this morning and it started first time in -1 temperatures and I took it for a 15 minute drive around...no problems at all.

Should the gear select lever (auto) move when the car is not running? I thought it did but mine won't move out of park whilst the engine is not running. All seems normal when running.

Can anyone enlighten me on this oddity?

Cheers,

Will only move from park with engine running or the ignition is switched on, for safety reasons

Where are you located Pete? If possable try and make a lunch meet or attend the
www.ukcrossfires.co.uk meets always good fun at both.


UKKen

 

Just been out for a 20 mile trip including fast, slow, heavy acceleration, through traffic, and haven't been able to replicate any of the odd occurrences of yesterday. In fact this car goes like a rocket!

As you say Mo...weird! Hopefully only a small introduction to the foibles of Crossfire ownership, only time will tell.

Not had her long but still finding excuses/every opportunity to go out for a drive.

 

Thanks for that Ken. I couldn't remember re the gear selector.

I'm in Lincolnshire and hope to get to some meets once the weather picks up (we can live in hopes ). I've been very busy for a few weeks and will be for a few more as I've had to arrange a house move for my elderly Mother which has proved to be a monumental task.

The BBQ at Northampton was on the radar for me but I won't be able to confirm until nearer the date. I saw mention of a Duxford meet which I'd like to attend as I have fond memories of the place. I used to work there on conservation of the aircraft. Hopefully I'll get to meet the majority of you before too long and I'm looking forward to it.

 

The starter motor in all Crossfires is electronically controlled.
All you have to do is momentarily turn the key to start, then release it.
The starter will run for approx 4 seconds, or until the engine starts.

On auto transmission cars, there is a locking mechanism ( cable ) between the ignition key assembly and the transmission shift quadrant. You must be in position 2 to be able to move the lever out of Park.

The original symptoms you described sound like a CPS getting ready to retire.
( CPS = Crankshaft Position Sensor )

REPLACE ONLY WITH BOSCH - AVOID THE CHINESE AND MEXICAN ONES.

 

Many thanks for the info alaxfire. I'll be keeping a close eye on things over the next couple of weeks and if it happens again will get it checked over. Hopefully these sort of faults will produce an error code for diagnosis. If it does turn out to be the CPS then it shouldn't be too expensive to remedy thankfully.

Thanks again,

Pete.

 

I have to concur. My fellow Alabamian is most likely correct.

And these were my exact symptoms when my CPS went south.

As it were. (South. Alabama. Get it?)

 

Had the CPS done on my N/A cost about £120 fitted. be suprised if yours was on the wayout at only 33k miles!! mine was at 105k.

 

Electronic parts can fail on day one or day 100,001. That is just the way they are, something like women, unpredictable.
Mechanical parts are much more predictable if they are made correctly.

 

You forgot.. "and can short out at a moments notice without any apparent reason!"

 

So are women .....

 

^^^^ "Leave it to Beaver" fan..

Time to watch some Bridezilla my friend.. LOL

 

The Good Wife's Guide

 

As above, from my mercedes experience if you release the key they will continue to crank for around 4-5 seconds or until the engine starts whichever is sooner, hence its something you only ever notice when you have a problem as the car usually lights up within just over a second.

 

I believe this is only true with the autostick also..

(Bloody Americans and Canards back up to those thread hijack blunders!)..

 

Did it again today . Booked in for a diagnostic on Monday. Not sure if they'll find it as the problem is intermittent.

 

if it has put the engine light on it will be stored in the memory

 

Aaah! that's good news Mo. Thanks.

 

Hi all,

just back from having the diagnostic on my car and the problem is indeed the CPS. They are ordering one for me today (Bosch) and fitting it tomorrow. Very helpful garage and even gave me a lift home and offered to pick me up tomorrow for collection. The part is £65 and 30 minutes labour so not too bad. Got my road tax at the end of the month though... Gulp!!!