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Re: total bs
Originally Posted by Mrmiata
How about we just get together and race to see who wins? Anybody near a 6 lane highway that clears out about 2 in the morning?
I'm a bigger fan of hitting a drag strip, lest we all be hypocrites and get nailed like bionic did.
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Re: total bs
Originally Posted by JHM2K
Before or after I get the turbo installed?
I'm a bigger fan of hitting a drag strip, lest we all be hypocrites and get nailed like bionic did.
I'm a bigger fan of hitting a drag strip, lest we all be hypocrites and get nailed like bionic did.
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Re: total bs
Originally Posted by rush549
This thread really caught my eye. Just a few weeks back I was traveling on one of my favorite back roads. It's very smooth and virtually empty. Well, I was feeling a little bored and decided, (as I often do on this road), to venture into the triple digits. I passed a couple of cars at a buck ten, when lo' and behold, there sat a full grown on the side of the road. I wasn't aware he was a highway patrolman till I went by him at eighty. I always slow for breakdowns. Well, he pulled me over and asked me that age old question. Do you know why I pulled you over? I of course turned turned immediately into Forest Gump. No sir, I have no idea. I was just running. He said that I was doing 108, held at 108 for awhile then slowed to 80. I then quickly turned into the rain man. No sir, I'm a very good driver. I was doing 70 then slowed to 60 when I saw a car on the side broke down. I'm a very good driver... Well your speedometer must be off, have you changed tire sizes recently. I beamed, (Thanks Rudy), that yes I had. He went back to his cruiser, came back with the dreaded manilla 4X10 card I have become much to familiar with. He told me he was cutting me a break due to my having a CDL. I recieved a ticket for, (drum roll please), 65 in a 55 Mph zone. He told me I should check my speedometer sometime, wear your seatbelt, and have a good day. My only complaint would be the cost of $143.00 for ten over. It seems like a lot. But tons better than what I damn well deserved!!!
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Re: total bs
If he truly slowed, he can fight it. Chris -- did she abandon the car she had initially pulled over to chase him down for an offense this simple? Seems odd to me.[/quote]
From the point I passed her position... to the point she had me pulled over was about 1/2 mile or less....she truly must have "punched it" to catch someone going about 65 mph in that short of distance. I assume she had finished with that guy.
From the point I passed her position... to the point she had me pulled over was about 1/2 mile or less....she truly must have "punched it" to catch someone going about 65 mph in that short of distance. I assume she had finished with that guy.
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Re: total bs
Where's Vegaslegal when you need him?
Vegas, I just noticed on the ticket that in the heat of the moment when she asked for my driver's license & insurance info....I must have pulled out Wilma's proof of insurance instead of Fred's. So on the ticket is the wrong VIN # & year of XF.......should I point out this incorrect info when it goes to trial? Or blame the citation on my wife since she was driving the vehicle on the citation the day of the alleged infraction?
Vegas, I just noticed on the ticket that in the heat of the moment when she asked for my driver's license & insurance info....I must have pulled out Wilma's proof of insurance instead of Fred's. So on the ticket is the wrong VIN # & year of XF.......should I point out this incorrect info when it goes to trial? Or blame the citation on my wife since she was driving the vehicle on the citation the day of the alleged infraction?
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From: Parsons Kansas
Re: total bs
Originally Posted by Larry Hitze
Why complain about the cost when in reality it could have been much worse. I would be thanking my lucky stars that is all I got.
I said... My only complaint would be the cost of $143.00 for ten over. It seems like a lot. But tons better than what I damn well deserved!!!
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Re: total bs
Originally Posted by JHM2K
I've taken all kinds of classes, my last one being an HPDE. Total hoot. But I'm not going to cause a wreck trying to put seven seconds between me and a lead car.
You initially said you crowd the "left lane". All the interstates around here tell the trucks to use the two right lanes. Left lane = fast lane. If you're crowding that lane, you're crowding the cars that are supposed to be there. As said earlier, it all comes down to common sense, and if you CAN make room for the HP, do it.
As for being "argumentative" that's not the case. I just don't like you. 
Last edited by rush549; Nov 15, 2011 at 07:21 PM.
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Re: total bs
Chris...the citation is discretionary...it is her call on whether she thought you slowed enough...Here in Indiana, you must slow to 45 mph if you can't get over. You can fight it in court since it is discretionary, but you had better have a clean record just in case you get the wrong judge. She must have seen something she didn't like, most won't do anything unless you are moving too fast or too close...good luck either way...Me, I am old school, if you got too close to me, I would have thrown something at your car...lol
Oh, and small mistakes on the citation usually won't have any affect on the citation....
Oh, and small mistakes on the citation usually won't have any affect on the citation....
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Re: total bs
Originally Posted by JHM2K
I've taken all kinds of classes, my last one being an HPDE. Total hoot. But I'm not going to cause a wreck trying to put seven seconds between me and a lead car.
You initially said you crowd the "left lane". All the interstates around here tell the trucks to use the two right lanes. Left lane = fast lane. If you're crowding that lane, you're crowding the cars that are supposed to be there. As said earlier, it all comes down to common sense, and if you CAN make room for the HP, do it.
As for being "argumentative" that's not the case. I just don't like you.
You initially said you crowd the "left lane". All the interstates around here tell the trucks to use the two right lanes. Left lane = fast lane. If you're crowding that lane, you're crowding the cars that are supposed to be there. As said earlier, it all comes down to common sense, and if you CAN make room for the HP, do it.
As for being "argumentative" that's not the case. I just don't like you.
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From: MOFN, AL, 70 miles from George
Re: total bs
Originally Posted by rush549
. But a 2 second rule in a car is insane. You should have at least one car length for every 10Mph. That's six and a half at sixty five.:
Rush, as much as it pains me to admit this-you are correct, sir. That's about 1 second per 10 MPH. It is the way I was taught in Wisconsin 35 years ago and still holds true to this day. Even considering that the average car today will stop in 60% of the distance ANY car of that era could!
And one MUST NOT forget the reaction time (gas to brake) of 1 second. Many do.
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95' = 3 car lengths? That's VERY conservative, haha.
@ 70mph, you travel 205.33 feet in two seconds. Given the average car in America is ~18' (based on parking spaces... some more, some less) that's over eleven car-lengths between you and the car in front of you.
If staying back seven seconds (718 feet, or 40 car-lengths) makes you feel safe, by all means go for it. All I ask, is that you exercise such caution in the right lane. I'll be passing by on the left.
The safest situation is clear & simple: don't drive at all.
This also solves the problem of tickets.
@ 70mph, you travel 205.33 feet in two seconds. Given the average car in America is ~18' (based on parking spaces... some more, some less) that's over eleven car-lengths between you and the car in front of you.
If staying back seven seconds (718 feet, or 40 car-lengths) makes you feel safe, by all means go for it. All I ask, is that you exercise such caution in the right lane. I'll be passing by on the left.
The safest situation is clear & simple: don't drive at all.
This also solves the problem of tickets.
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Re: total bs
Originally Posted by maxcichon
And one MUST NOT forget the reaction time (gas to brake) of 1 second. Many do.
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Re: total bs
Originally Posted by alaxfire
Assuming you are not on autopilot and half asleep, in which case 5 or 6 seconds is about right.
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Re: total bs
Originally Posted by Chris L.
It's been so long since I've had a ticket......do you avoid the "court costs" part if you just pay the fine?
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Re: total bs
Originally Posted by blackcrossfire07
I say our cars are cop magnets and you say they are not. The fact is they are! I am living proof of that. Both of my speeding tickets were for 11 over on the interstate. I do that every day in my jeep and go right past the troopers taking radar... and NEVER get nailed. Every morning they are almost in the same place on the side of the road. They NEVER pull me over. One of these mornings I will drive past the same trooper at the same speed with my crossfire and you will see what happens.
I will say doing 50+ over the limit rules out "cop magnet" in that situation but our cars are cop magnets.
The fact is this.... our cars attract attention. Cops don't mean to single us out but they do because our cars are very different and attract attention.
I will say doing 50+ over the limit rules out "cop magnet" in that situation but our cars are cop magnets.
The fact is this.... our cars attract attention. Cops don't mean to single us out but they do because our cars are very different and attract attention.
The only other ticket I have got in the last 5 years is for riding a motorcycle with flip-flops on...
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Re: total bs
I retraced my route on I-70 today...using the trip meter.
A peak (no one can see over the peak.....NO ONE!) occurs at (speed limit is 70 mph) 0.0 miles
I was stopped with my window down at 0.6 miles.
So the distance from first possible human sighting of the trooper to complete stop = 0.6 miles.
I first noticed the cop 20-30 feet off my bumper at maybe 0.4 miles from the 0.0 point of first possible sighting.
I was going 60 or less when I passed the trooper (at a dead stop) & then maybe got back up to 65 before she magically appeared 20-30 feet off my bumper.
I've had a couple of semesters of calculus....
at 60 mph a car travels 1 mile/minute. If she was located at the 0.3 mile midpoint (dead stop) ....& was on my bumper at 0.4 or 0.5 & I was at a dead stop at 0.6....then, (Holy Christ!)-
So at 60 it would have taken me 12 seconds to travel from her 0.3 to her being on my bumper at the 0.5 mark...can you imagine the thrill of acceleration she must have experienced .....she must have gone from 0 to 100-120 in Bugatti like time.
& she thinks I did something to endanger her life???
A peak (no one can see over the peak.....NO ONE!) occurs at (speed limit is 70 mph) 0.0 miles
I was stopped with my window down at 0.6 miles.
So the distance from first possible human sighting of the trooper to complete stop = 0.6 miles.
I first noticed the cop 20-30 feet off my bumper at maybe 0.4 miles from the 0.0 point of first possible sighting.
I was going 60 or less when I passed the trooper (at a dead stop) & then maybe got back up to 65 before she magically appeared 20-30 feet off my bumper.
I've had a couple of semesters of calculus....
at 60 mph a car travels 1 mile/minute. If she was located at the 0.3 mile midpoint (dead stop) ....& was on my bumper at 0.4 or 0.5 & I was at a dead stop at 0.6....then, (Holy Christ!)-
So at 60 it would have taken me 12 seconds to travel from her 0.3 to her being on my bumper at the 0.5 mark...can you imagine the thrill of acceleration she must have experienced .....she must have gone from 0 to 100-120 in Bugatti like time.
& she thinks I did something to endanger her life???
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Re: total bs
I'm going with my son this afternoon to make a video to prove the topography & distances.
I have to show up in court on Jan 20th, 2012 at 9am & plead not guilty. The judge will then set a trial date & subpoena the trooper.
Doc, will the trooper show up with a dash cam video?
Also, this will be a trial (no jury) before a judge & I will be acting as my own attorney......will I be allowed to ask the trooper questions under oath?
Will I be allowed to present video/ picture evidence?
I have to show up in court on Jan 20th, 2012 at 9am & plead not guilty. The judge will then set a trial date & subpoena the trooper.
Doc, will the trooper show up with a dash cam video?
Also, this will be a trial (no jury) before a judge & I will be acting as my own attorney......will I be allowed to ask the trooper questions under oath?
Will I be allowed to present video/ picture evidence?
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Re: total bs
Originally Posted by Chris L.
I'm going with my son this afternoon to make a video to prove the topography & distances.
I have to show up in court on Jan 20th, 2012 at 9am & plead not guilty. The judge will then set a trial date & subpoena the trooper.
Doc, will the trooper show up with a dash cam video?
Also, this will be a trial (no jury) before a judge & I will be acting as my own attorney......will I be allowed to ask the trooper questions under oath?
Will I be allowed to present video/ picture evidence?
I have to show up in court on Jan 20th, 2012 at 9am & plead not guilty. The judge will then set a trial date & subpoena the trooper.
Doc, will the trooper show up with a dash cam video?
Also, this will be a trial (no jury) before a judge & I will be acting as my own attorney......will I be allowed to ask the trooper questions under oath?
Will I be allowed to present video/ picture evidence?