Question...303 protectant for convertible top
Question...303 protectant for convertible top
Hi,
For those of you who use the 303 brand protectant for your convertible top....which one do you use?
There is the Fabric protectant....but it does not say that it contains any UV block capability.
Then there's the Aerospace protectant that does contain UV blocking, and it lists convertible tops as one of its uses....but most of the uses listed are non-fabric types.
So...which is the right product to use???
Thanks
For those of you who use the 303 brand protectant for your convertible top....which one do you use?
There is the Fabric protectant....but it does not say that it contains any UV block capability.
Then there's the Aerospace protectant that does contain UV blocking, and it lists convertible tops as one of its uses....but most of the uses listed are non-fabric types.
So...which is the right product to use???
Thanks
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Re: Question...303 protectant for convertible top
This is what I use on mine and it works great makes the top look brand new
303 High Tech Fabric Guard is powerful enough to protect fabrics in the harshest environment ...outdoors. safe for the finest fabrics, wool, silk, and fine leathers - including suede.
On outdoor fabrics, 303 High Tech Fabric Guard restores lost water repellency and stain repellency to factory new levels. 303 High Tech Fabric Guard resists soiling, impedes mildew formation and helps protect against the sun's harmful UV rays.
303 Kit 2 for
Fabric Convertible Tops
This All-in-One Kit contains both the 303 Convertible Top Cleaner AND the 303 High Tech Fabric Guard - Everything You Need to Keep Your Tops Looking Like New !
303 Convertible Top Cleaner utilizes a unique "colloidal" action to lift and suspend oil, grease and dirt. It does not contain soap, detergents, toxic organics, phosphates, nitrates or caustics. 303 Top Cleaner is extremely effective and extremely safe and leaves no residue like most cleaners.Fabric Convertible Tops
This All-in-One Kit contains both the 303 Convertible Top Cleaner AND the 303 High Tech Fabric Guard - Everything You Need to Keep Your Tops Looking Like New !
303 High Tech Fabric Guard is powerful enough to protect fabrics in the harshest environment ...outdoors. safe for the finest fabrics, wool, silk, and fine leathers - including suede.
On outdoor fabrics, 303 High Tech Fabric Guard restores lost water repellency and stain repellency to factory new levels. 303 High Tech Fabric Guard resists soiling, impedes mildew formation and helps protect against the sun's harmful UV rays.
Re: Question...303 protectant for convertible top
I use the fabric guard. LOVE IT!
Here's another post on this product.
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ric-guard.html
Here's another post on this product.
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ric-guard.html
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Re: Question...303 protectant for convertible top
I just got the 303 Frabric protector last week, still haven't put it on but plan to do so for the fall Dragon. My car sits in a garage all the time and the top still looks clean and new. I don't thinik the previous owner ever protected it, it is said he hever allowed it to get wet.
I'll put it on maybe this weekend - in about 3 light coats.
I'll put it on maybe this weekend - in about 3 light coats.
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I bought the kit and I thought my top looked clean , until I used the cleaner that came in the kit,,,, I was really suprised at the dirt it loosend up , really made a difference. even before I applied the protective coat. beads up really nice and will soak you if you roll the window down at the wrong time
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Re: Question...303 protectant for convertible top
Originally Posted by hcarter
This is what I use on mine and it works great makes the top look brand new
This All-in-One Kit contains both the 303 Convertible Top Cleaner AND the 303 High Tech Fabric Guard - Everything You Need to Keep Your Tops Looking Like New !
303 Convertible Top Cleaner utilizes a unique "colloidal" action to lift and suspend oil, grease and dirt. It does not contain soap, detergents, toxic organics, phosphates, nitrates or caustics. 303 Top Cleaner is extremely effective and extremely safe and leaves no residue like most cleaners.
303 High Tech Fabric Guard is powerful enough to protect fabrics in the harshest environment ...outdoors. safe for the finest fabrics, wool, silk, and fine leathers - including suede.
On outdoor fabrics, 303 High Tech Fabric Guard restores lost water repellency and stain repellency to factory new levels. 303 High Tech Fabric Guard resists soiling, impedes mildew formation and helps protect against the sun's harmful UV rays.
303 Kit 2 for
Fabric Convertible TopsThis All-in-One Kit contains both the 303 Convertible Top Cleaner AND the 303 High Tech Fabric Guard - Everything You Need to Keep Your Tops Looking Like New !
303 Convertible Top Cleaner utilizes a unique "colloidal" action to lift and suspend oil, grease and dirt. It does not contain soap, detergents, toxic organics, phosphates, nitrates or caustics. 303 Top Cleaner is extremely effective and extremely safe and leaves no residue like most cleaners.
303 High Tech Fabric Guard is powerful enough to protect fabrics in the harshest environment ...outdoors. safe for the finest fabrics, wool, silk, and fine leathers - including suede.
On outdoor fabrics, 303 High Tech Fabric Guard restores lost water repellency and stain repellency to factory new levels. 303 High Tech Fabric Guard resists soiling, impedes mildew formation and helps protect against the sun's harmful UV rays.
I followed your lead and bought the 303 HTFG kit. I will do my top this weekend...weather permitting.
Just a thought...has anyone tried using the 303 Aerospace protectant on their wheels? I have the roadster with the silver painted alloy wheels. Would this help in preventing the brake dust from sticking?
What do ya think?
Thanks
Re: Question...303 protectant for convertible top
HCarter,
I did a little experiment when I last applied the 303, sprayed a small amount on one of the side windows and let it dry over night. When I returned the next morning it was dry but a little sticky. I had to use mineral spirits to get the stuff off, window cleaner wouldn't touch it.
The Ragg top protectant has paraffin or the like in it, I suspect the 303 does also?
Bill,
I did a little experiment when I last applied the 303, sprayed a small amount on one of the side windows and let it dry over night. When I returned the next morning it was dry but a little sticky. I had to use mineral spirits to get the stuff off, window cleaner wouldn't touch it.
The Ragg top protectant has paraffin or the like in it, I suspect the 303 does also?
Bill,
Re: Question...303 protectant for convertible top
Originally Posted by billangiep
HCarter,
I did a little experiment when I last applied the 303, sprayed a small amount on one of the side windows and let it dry over night. When I returned the next morning it was dry but a little sticky. I had to use mineral spirits to get the stuff off, window cleaner wouldn't touch it.
The Ragg top protectant has paraffin or the like in it, I suspect the 303 does also?
Bill,
I did a little experiment when I last applied the 303, sprayed a small amount on one of the side windows and let it dry over night. When I returned the next morning it was dry but a little sticky. I had to use mineral spirits to get the stuff off, window cleaner wouldn't touch it.
The Ragg top protectant has paraffin or the like in it, I suspect the 303 does also?
Bill,
Originally Posted by Erzer
You have to do a little searching on the MSDS information to find more about the Petroleum Distillates
CAS No. 64742-94-5
Solvent naphtha
Solvent naphtha (petroleum), heavy arom.;C12-15 ALKANE/CYCLOALKANE/AROMATIC HYDROCARBONS;C10-11 AROMATIC HYDROCARBONS;AromaticSolventNaphtha;CHEMDYE RED RD;CHEMADYE ORANGE 6HL;CHEMADYE RED HO;CHEMADYE RED GR;CHEMADYE GREEN IG;CHEMADYE VIOLET AB;CHEMADYE BLUE SG;CHEMADYE GREEN IB;AROMATICHYDROCARBONSOLVENT;Losungsmittelnaphtha (Erdol), schwere aromatische;Distillates (petroleum) intermediate cracked: Hydrotreated Distillate, Light;Solvent naphtha (petroleum), heavy arom. Kerosine - unspecified;aromatic solvent 200;solvent naphtha petroleum, heavy aromatic;Heavy aromatic naphtha solvent
RTECS No. WF3100000
CAS No. 64742-94-5
Solvent naphtha
Solvent naphtha (petroleum), heavy arom.;C12-15 ALKANE/CYCLOALKANE/AROMATIC HYDROCARBONS;C10-11 AROMATIC HYDROCARBONS;AromaticSolventNaphtha;CHEMDYE RED RD;CHEMADYE ORANGE 6HL;CHEMADYE RED HO;CHEMADYE RED GR;CHEMADYE GREEN IG;CHEMADYE VIOLET AB;CHEMADYE BLUE SG;CHEMADYE GREEN IB;AROMATICHYDROCARBONSOLVENT;Losungsmittelnaphtha (Erdol), schwere aromatische;Distillates (petroleum) intermediate cracked: Hydrotreated Distillate, Light;Solvent naphtha (petroleum), heavy arom. Kerosine - unspecified;aromatic solvent 200;solvent naphtha petroleum, heavy aromatic;Heavy aromatic naphtha solvent
RTECS No. WF3100000
Re: Question...303 protectant for convertible top
The short answer: Ragg Topp's protectant nature lies in the use of wax (paraffin), while 303 uses oils (petroleum and kerosene). Both are perfectly acceptable treatments to shed water and contaminants. The Ragg Topp's wax, in my view, tends to collect and capture more lint and dust, especially when softened in the hot sun.
Take your pick.
Take your pick.
Re: Question...303 protectant for convertible top
Erzer,Thanks..
That was the link I found,still really no clue as to whats in the 303?
Dwight,
I suspect that they are using the petroleum (naphtha/kerosene) as a propellant to get the product on the top? Still after my little experiment I believe that there is some type of wax/paraffin in the 303?
A lot of fabric waterproofers use silicone as the active ingredient but they don't last nearly as long as the 303.
It's a mystery, heck if all that was in it was petroleum, you could paint the top with your used motor oil ?
Bill,
That was the link I found,still really no clue as to whats in the 303?
Dwight,
I suspect that they are using the petroleum (naphtha/kerosene) as a propellant to get the product on the top? Still after my little experiment I believe that there is some type of wax/paraffin in the 303?
A lot of fabric waterproofers use silicone as the active ingredient but they don't last nearly as long as the 303.
It's a mystery, heck if all that was in it was petroleum, you could paint the top with your used motor oil ?
Bill,
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Re: Question...303 protectant for convertible top
I believe I've read this thread thoroghly but I still have a question. I believe I'm correct in assuming the 303 cleaner will not harm glass or paint. One reply mentioned a glass problem with the protectant so do you guys reccomend protecting paint and glass from 303 protectant overspray? Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by Larry Gumpert
I believe I've read this thread thoroghly but I still have a question. I believe I'm correct in assuming the 303 cleaner will not harm glass or paint. One reply mentioned a glass problem with the protectant so do you guys reccomend protecting paint and glass from 303 protectant overspray? Thanks in advance.
Remember several light coats are much better than one heavy coat.
Oh, and for the wheels.... If you have the OEM brake pads, nothing is going to help with the brake dust. Swap out the brake pads with some Akebono ceramic pads, and you will never see dust again. Ceramic pads are a must on these cars.
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Re: Question...303 protectant for convertible top
I put up a post on the 303 of my top during the winter. All I can say is that I am really impressed by this finish and my top looks like its new. As far as water repellancy it is really good. I didn't both to make another "rinse" video because it would be redundant. The 303 products get top ratings from me.
Here's my earlier post:
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...tible-top.html
Here's my earlier post:
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...tible-top.html
Re: Question...303 protectant for convertible top
It sounds/looks really good. Is it necessary to mask off the car before use?
I did a quick search and it seems that the products are readily available at marine dealers - more than at auto product suppliers. I don't know about pricing, though.
John
I did a quick search and it seems that the products are readily available at marine dealers - more than at auto product suppliers. I don't know about pricing, though.
John
Re: Question...303 protectant for convertible top
See my earlier post re the prices that I found. The marinas and West Marine did not carry the Fabric Guard, although they had the other 303 products.
I feel that it is necessary to mask of the car - just to ensure that you don't create a mess and have to clean overspray off the paint. For the time it takes it is worth it. The spray is a fine mist and so you can reasonably expect it to float in the air and deposit on your paint.
I'm fussy and I didn't want the messy cleanup. Based on what I've seen this product leave on glass - I wouldn't want it on my paint. Mask the rear window well. If it drips on the glass you'll remember why you masked off the car.
I don't wash my car very often, but today I did just to get dust of it. The top beaded up remarkably when I sprayed it. It seemed to dry fairly quickly (at least to the touch). I've left it up in the garage to dry until tomorrow. I'll use the lint roller on it and then put it down and throw the cover on. It still looks like new!
I feel that it is necessary to mask of the car - just to ensure that you don't create a mess and have to clean overspray off the paint. For the time it takes it is worth it. The spray is a fine mist and so you can reasonably expect it to float in the air and deposit on your paint.
I'm fussy and I didn't want the messy cleanup. Based on what I've seen this product leave on glass - I wouldn't want it on my paint. Mask the rear window well. If it drips on the glass you'll remember why you masked off the car.
I don't wash my car very often, but today I did just to get dust of it. The top beaded up remarkably when I sprayed it. It seemed to dry fairly quickly (at least to the touch). I've left it up in the garage to dry until tomorrow. I'll use the lint roller on it and then put it down and throw the cover on. It still looks like new!
Re: Question...303 protectant for convertible top
Originally Posted by BRappaport
Thanks HCarter,
I followed your lead and bought the 303 HTFG kit. I will do my top this weekend...weather permitting.
Just a thought...has anyone tried using the 303 Aerospace protectant on their wheels? I have the roadster with the silver painted alloy wheels. Would this help in preventing the brake dust from sticking?
What do ya think?
Thanks
I followed your lead and bought the 303 HTFG kit. I will do my top this weekend...weather permitting.
Just a thought...has anyone tried using the 303 Aerospace protectant on their wheels? I have the roadster with the silver painted alloy wheels. Would this help in preventing the brake dust from sticking?
What do ya think?
Thanks
Re: Question...303 protectant for convertible top
Originally Posted by Ottawa John
It sounds/looks really good. Is it necessary to mask off the car before use?
I did a quick search and it seems that the products are readily available at marine dealers - more than at auto product suppliers. I don't know about pricing, though.
John
I did a quick search and it seems that the products are readily available at marine dealers - more than at auto product suppliers. I don't know about pricing, though.
John
Originally Posted by gfalcone
ABSOLUTELY ...the fabric guard....4 years use and my top looks as good as brand new...
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