There are decent, respectful young people...
Originally Posted by green-ghost
My 16 year old daughter gets her share of respect (from mom and me) because she's one of the better kids...not just saying that because Im her dad. She deeply cares about her hs GPA and has to take cr@p from teachers that clearly have NO respect for children. Still she fights even harder and maintains high honors, has several goals in action for college, and is just Good.
Now if someone was to take the opinion that she doesnt deserve respect cause shes a kid I'd have a SERIOUS problem with them. We teach respect and reward it and it produces a noble child that has respect for others she meets.
Please dont limit yourself by lumping kids into snot nosed brats that dont deserve your respect. They are people too. Now if we were talking about a disrespectful 8 -12 year old I would agree with you.
On the same note, kid or adult, you treat me with no respect once and game over
Now if someone was to take the opinion that she doesnt deserve respect cause shes a kid I'd have a SERIOUS problem with them. We teach respect and reward it and it produces a noble child that has respect for others she meets.
Please dont limit yourself by lumping kids into snot nosed brats that dont deserve your respect. They are people too. Now if we were talking about a disrespectful 8 -12 year old I would agree with you.
On the same note, kid or adult, you treat me with no respect once and game over
Originally Posted by rcompart
So you gonna go off the record and PM me what your couple of things are that you'd say to me or should I start humming and receive it telepatheticly? Everyone here knows I'm not the boss or judge (nor do I try to portray myself as such) and you're the first to accuse me of it so I guess I'll stick to what I find is just offering the immediate negative consequences that were justified for your actions. Following that, everyone here on the forum are the jury so either take what people say, analyze it and take what should be taken from it and change your course or simply ignore it and continue to go off on your rants of woe, gloom and despair. The simple fact is you were the first person to attack someone in this thread, the kids that were genuinely nice. I grew up in a small town and a handshake was a mans way of sealing a deal, saying hello, or congratulating someone. I shook a lot of strangers hands at every age of my life and not once was it me trying to be a wise-azz. Your posts used to stay confined to the political threads but recently you've decided to stray from the acreage and sh*t on other peoples fields. This thread and the wavetrak thread are perfect examples. So for that, if you feel you're still in the right, let me have it but the way I'm seeing it, if we stood shoulder to shoulder shaking the hands of the people here on the forum, I highly doubt I'd be the one receiving them in wise-azz fashion. (you probably wouldn't either because for the most part, people here are genuinely nice but you get the point)
I didn't PM you because it is not worth my time.
Originally Posted by blackcrossfire07
A couple people on here said they give 15 year old strangers respect. Since when does a 15 year old kid deserve respect? Shouldn't we teach them to earn respect?
Originally Posted by Thirteendog
It's no wonder why people don't respect you. You get what you give. Kids are smart, and they know when they're being talked down to. I'm sorry you feel the way you do, but if we really wanted to be honest here your word isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
Children (or adults) do not get a free pass with me. They do not have my respect unless they earn it. If you give respect out so freely then it is your malfunction! Why would I respect a group of kids when they ask me "can I shake your hand?". In my world that is a wise crack question that deserves a firm kick on the rear end. Maybe growing up in the streets of NY has taught me more about human interaction then where you grew up.
You say kids know when they are being talked down to. Why did our society put kids above adults? Who gave our kids more power than their parents? I was taught to respect adults... don't talk back. Now I have a 26 year old telling me I should respect Kids! That type of mentality is the root of all our problems in society.
I could sit here and preach the truth to you all day and you still won't understand so there is no point. You haven't been in the real world yet so what do you know.
Last edited by blackcrossfire07; Feb 9, 2011 at 11:14 AM.
Originally Posted by blackcrossfire07
Maybe growing up in the streets of NY..
That explains it all..typical new yorker. Yes I am one too but I learned not to judge a book by its cover
Originally Posted by shadow872
That explains it all..typical new yorker. Yes I am one too but I learned not to judge a book by its cover
If a guy that looks like a bum walks up to you with a gun, will you walk up to him and assume he is an ok guy? Or will you keep distance and proceed with caution until you get to know more about him.
By the way... I hate NY! You live in a dump!
Originally Posted by blackcrossfire07
I judge a book by the cover... which tells me if I need to proceed with caution until their cover comes off. It is called street smart and playing it safe.
If a guy that looks like a bum walks up to you with a gun, will you walk up to him and assume he is an ok guy? Or will you keep distance and proceed with caution until you get to know more about him.
By the way... I hate NY! You live in a dump!
If a guy that looks like a bum walks up to you with a gun, will you walk up to him and assume he is an ok guy? Or will you keep distance and proceed with caution until you get to know more about him.
By the way... I hate NY! You live in a dump!
We're talking about 6 harmless kids that were complimenting SRT SIX on his car. Reading the story the kids didn't do any damage to the car or him. They wernt hurting anyone even if it was a wiseass remark. I'm not arguing or trying to add to this mess that's going on. Just stating a point that there are some decent kids out there. Yes there are wiseass ones too but this wasn't the case. You're getting too far into this..
And as far as ny goes I hate it too, can't stand the peoples attitude and more importantly their driving whixh is why I plan on moving out of here within the next year or so
If there's a gun involved there is no judging. No one trusts anyone on the street with a gun.
That rule only applies in NY. When you move out of NY you will learn that is not always the case. Not everyone with a gun is out to harm you.... unless it is on the streets of NY.
We're talking about 6 harmless kids that were complimenting SRT SIX on his car. Reading the story the kids didn't do any damage to the car or him. They wernt hurting anyone even if it was a wiseass remark. I'm not arguing or trying to add to this mess that's going on. Just stating a point that there are some decent kids out there. Yes there are wiseass ones too but this wasn't the case. You're getting too far into this..
Yes... there are some good kids out there. But in this particular case they were wise A--- (only in their initial response). They turned out to be ok but their initial meeting was a comment of sarcasm.
That rule only applies in NY. When you move out of NY you will learn that is not always the case. Not everyone with a gun is out to harm you.... unless it is on the streets of NY.
We're talking about 6 harmless kids that were complimenting SRT SIX on his car. Reading the story the kids didn't do any damage to the car or him. They wernt hurting anyone even if it was a wiseass remark. I'm not arguing or trying to add to this mess that's going on. Just stating a point that there are some decent kids out there. Yes there are wiseass ones too but this wasn't the case. You're getting too far into this..
Yes... there are some good kids out there. But in this particular case they were wise A--- (only in their initial response). They turned out to be ok but their initial meeting was a comment of sarcasm.
Originally Posted by blackcrossfire07
Yes... there are some good kids out there. But in this particular case they were wise A--- (only in their initial response). They turned out to be ok but their initial meeting was a comment of sarcasm.
Originally Posted by rcompart
What are tonight's powerball numbers going to be since you seem to know stuff us regular people don't. You have an absolute disregard for respect and the more you run your mouth, the more it becomes apparent. Respect is earned but at the same time we have to respect one another and give everyone the benefit of the doubt. If we fail to do that, we fail to respect them. Everyone has my respect until they do something to me. Sometimes they garner my utmost respect, sometimes they lose my respect altogether but no one ever goes into the game with me with no respect. You feel we should respect you because of our age being to your minor but I disagree. I think we should respect you because you're a person just like us and that's how it's supposed to be. That being said, you've lost my respect due to your overwhelming disrespect toward your peers on this forum. I know you don't care and that's fine but it's pretty sad when you lose people's respect. You just might want to shake someone's hand someday to congratulate them and have them think you're just being a wise-azz old coot thinking you can be coy with the younger generation.
Originally Posted by blackcrossfire07
You think I lost respect from my peers.... well there are some people here that share my thoughts on this subject. Just because you don't doesn't mean you need to blast me over it. This is a forum and I thought I was allowed to voice my thoughts on this subject. I guess I can only voice my thoughts when it matches your personal beliefs. But because I am a straight shooter I lose your respect. I don't really want or need your respect... and I don't care for your attitude towards me. You think I am your peer... but do we really have anything in common (anymore)?
Good luck on your journey through life and may it not be as bitter and deceiving as you try to make it out to be.
Originally Posted by rcompart
You're the one on here lobbing grenades at people so don't get upset when somebody picks one up and tosses it back your way. I feel bad because this is all happening in Karl's thread but the truth is that you want to make it a double standard. You started out saying that the kids were trying to be disrespectful towards Karl and the whole point is there is NO way that you could know that. You state it as fact but offer no concrete evidence to your cause and you still feel inclined to press the issue further. And you didn't lose my respect for being a straight shooter. You lost it because you neglect to see that perhaps not everyone has a predisposition to act in a derogative manner toward others like you exhibit. A straight shooter wouldn't lump everyone into categories based off their age and hence, how they should be respected. I thought a mutual respect for one another and the love of an awesome car was what brought us all together. That was our common ground. But you're right as I respect everyone whether they are young or old. I'm not discriminate and would never "just give them the boot" as you so eloquently put it because they are young. That's the point, that's the issue and that's what you're trying to overlook and pass on for your own personal validation. This is my last post in here because from the extent of my postings, it's clear that you're not going to take a look at this from a different point of view and see if it is justified and if there is anything positive you can take from all this.
Good luck on your journey through life and may it not be as bitter and deceiving as you try to make it out to be.
Good luck on your journey through life and may it not be as bitter and deceiving as you try to make it out to be.
The question of "can I shake your hand?" was a wise crack! I am not taking away from karl's experience. I simply said their initial encounter was that of a wise crack. Everything after that was a positive experience for Karl and I am not trying to take that away from him.
I never lumped all kids into one bucket... I know there are exceptions to the rule. I was speaking about the majority of kids today. And I don't blame the kids. I blame the parents. I think a majority of Americans today would agree with me on that.
Perhaps you should re-read your posts. You claim to not lump all kids into one bucket yet YOU KNOW that these kids were wise cracking. I didn't realize you were there. Were you lurking in the shadows?
I did not start this thread to be controversal, just a simple recognition of a positive experience with some good decent kids.
You insult every member on this forum by claiming "... it is no surprise I am the only person smart enough here that sees behavior for what it really is."
It is one thing to have an opinion and to voice it as such, it is quite another to claim you are an authority and know it all.
You are a very sad individual indeed. You talk about respect and earning it, yet you have not shown any to anyone else. You claim that people respect you, to that I say it is no surprise to me that I am far smarter than you and I can't believe you can't see your behavior on this forum for what it really is!
Respect is only earned after it is given and then shown it is deserved. You have not done this.
I started this thread to recognize some decent kids. It is unfortunate you have taken the attitude you have displayed. Oh, and yes, you have crapped on this thread. This was not the political forum elliciting debate, it was simply recognition.
But somehow, I think none of this matters to you. In your own sick little world you appear to be enjoying all the attention even if it is not positive.
Won't you please just go away?
I did not start this thread to be controversal, just a simple recognition of a positive experience with some good decent kids.
You insult every member on this forum by claiming "... it is no surprise I am the only person smart enough here that sees behavior for what it really is."
It is one thing to have an opinion and to voice it as such, it is quite another to claim you are an authority and know it all.
You are a very sad individual indeed. You talk about respect and earning it, yet you have not shown any to anyone else. You claim that people respect you, to that I say it is no surprise to me that I am far smarter than you and I can't believe you can't see your behavior on this forum for what it really is!
Respect is only earned after it is given and then shown it is deserved. You have not done this.
I started this thread to recognize some decent kids. It is unfortunate you have taken the attitude you have displayed. Oh, and yes, you have crapped on this thread. This was not the political forum elliciting debate, it was simply recognition.
But somehow, I think none of this matters to you. In your own sick little world you appear to be enjoying all the attention even if it is not positive.
Won't you please just go away?
Originally Posted by blackcrossfire07
You need to re-read my posts. You are accusing me of saying things that I never said. Let me say it again for the 10th time in as few words as possible...
The question of "can I shake your hand?" was a wise crack! I am not taking away from karl's experience. I simply said their initial encounter was that of a wise crack. Everything after that was a positive experience for Karl and I am not trying to take that away from him.
I never lumped all kids into one bucket... I know there are exceptions to the rule. I was speaking about the majority of kids today. And I don't blame the kids. I blame the parents. I think a majority of Americans today would agree with me on that.
The question of "can I shake your hand?" was a wise crack! I am not taking away from karl's experience. I simply said their initial encounter was that of a wise crack. Everything after that was a positive experience for Karl and I am not trying to take that away from him.
I never lumped all kids into one bucket... I know there are exceptions to the rule. I was speaking about the majority of kids today. And I don't blame the kids. I blame the parents. I think a majority of Americans today would agree with me on that.
Originally Posted by blackcrossfire07
Excuse me.... I would say a couple things to you but not in this forum. Not sure who made you the boss/judge and jury around here.... or what gives you the right to jump in and attack me.
My conclusion is based on someone that deals with these kids each day. I read the entire thread. I am telling you as a fact that any teenager that walks up and says "I want to shake your hand" is being a wise crack. After they saw the lambo doors and talked with him it turned into a serious encounter and they were genuinely interested. That is when the good behavior and everything positive about the encounter occured. But their initial approach was that of an immature wise crack... designed to look good (and humorous) in front of their peers. This is a fact!
I am just telling you that if I saw a group of teenagers walking up to me and asked to shake my hand I would give them the boot and tell them to get lost. You people need to stop attacking me because this is a fourm and I am only speaking the truth. I am not trying to crap on anyones thread. I am simply telling you how the teenager mind works today. Ask any young educator in middle school and they will tell you exactly what I am saying.
My conclusion is based on someone that deals with these kids each day. I read the entire thread. I am telling you as a fact that any teenager that walks up and says "I want to shake your hand" is being a wise crack. After they saw the lambo doors and talked with him it turned into a serious encounter and they were genuinely interested. That is when the good behavior and everything positive about the encounter occured. But their initial approach was that of an immature wise crack... designed to look good (and humorous) in front of their peers. This is a fact!
I am just telling you that if I saw a group of teenagers walking up to me and asked to shake my hand I would give them the boot and tell them to get lost. You people need to stop attacking me because this is a fourm and I am only speaking the truth. I am not trying to crap on anyones thread. I am simply telling you how the teenager mind works today. Ask any young educator in middle school and they will tell you exactly what I am saying.
Originally Posted by blackcrossfire07
You need to re-read my posts. You are accusing me of saying things that I never said. Let me say it again for the 10th time in as few words as possible...
The question of "can I shake your hand?" was a wise crack! I am not taking away from karl's experience. I simply said their initial encounter was that of a wise crack. Everything after that was a positive experience for Karl and I am not trying to take that away from him.
I never lumped all kids into one bucket... I know there are exceptions to the rule. I was speaking about the majority of kids today. And I don't blame the kids. I blame the parents. I think a majority of Americans today would agree with me on that.
The question of "can I shake your hand?" was a wise crack! I am not taking away from karl's experience. I simply said their initial encounter was that of a wise crack. Everything after that was a positive experience for Karl and I am not trying to take that away from him.
I never lumped all kids into one bucket... I know there are exceptions to the rule. I was speaking about the majority of kids today. And I don't blame the kids. I blame the parents. I think a majority of Americans today would agree with me on that.
It's a serious issue we have going on in the culture. It really is a mess. Partly because of latch key kids, as a resul;t of stranger danger as a result of their parents loose upbringing as a result of thei9r parents diligence as a result of relief over the end of WWII etc.
Originally Posted by mdaniels4
Y'know black, you can just feel every single time when they're pulling your chain, and when they're not. Every single time!
I have to laugh at their attempts at smooth though. they try! Ii's cool. They're all a bunch of wipes, just some alot nicer wipes than others.
LOL!
Wipes
Is that like half of a word.
Greg, you absolutely crack me up!!!! I LOL when I saw your post. No, it's not a 1/2 word, it's an entire freakin" conceptual idea goin' on. It's a history, dude.
Originally Posted by mdaniels4
BTW, in addition to what I just posted I have to say in my experience this is true. These kids will get thru this but I suspect they'll be older before they "get it", whatever the f*** it is because I don't think I got it yet, I got me some but I don't think it was some of it1 Aww man now I'm really confused.
It's a serious issue we have going on in the culture. It really is a mess. Partly because of latch key kids, as a resul;t of stranger danger as a result of their parents loose upbringing as a result of thei9r parents diligence as a result of relief over the end of WWII etc.
It's a serious issue we have going on in the culture. It really is a mess. Partly because of latch key kids, as a resul;t of stranger danger as a result of their parents loose upbringing as a result of thei9r parents diligence as a result of relief over the end of WWII etc.
Originally Posted by blackcrossfire07
Thanks for your post. I know there are smart people out there that see my point. Thanks!

Sarcasm escapes you lol



