All of us see your point it's just the "smart ones" that don't agree with you. Get over it ....move on.
Understand that we all have our own perception of how we see things....... based on how we want to see things and the way we live our lives. The old saying is the glass" half full" or is it "half empty".
Have a wonderful day!!!!

 

It's really interesting about kids today. there are alot of good kids out there, but in general, what I've seen is more of a self centered viewpoint in them than I did in the past. In general, alot of them are really disrespectful and I think alot of that is as a result of rather forceful messages of the "rights of the individual" viewpoint that our culture has. Kids tend to think in black and white, they don't in general have the ability to think logically like adults do, they have logic but it's a different logic that will change dramatically. Our culture has as a rule, a viewpoint of kids as miniture adults, which is wrong, because they are miniture adults in a larval stage, and not yet developed into what they will become.

So we try to make them BE what we expect of adult like thought and behavior but they can't get there. That does not however excuse them for how they seem to have no idea of tressapssing on others property, or personal rights, and they then look at you as if you're an alien to which that may be true in their way of thinking.

The best way I've found of dealing with them is to make it seem as if I have their best interests at heart when I want them to do something like not cutting through my yard with their bikes or digging snow holes in my yard and tossing the waste into the driveway. In that case, when I catch them at it I bring the snowshovel out and advise them that we're going top learn about the safe way to shovel snow so they don't hurt their backs in 20 years from now when they have to do their own driveways.

 

Very true. I think the "lesson" of the "rights of the individual" has been mis-interpreted by the young.

I attribute this to the lack of life experience on THEIR part that leads them astray - not their fault, but it IS their handicap.

 

I think that's a good description, Mark, the misinterpretation of individual rights, the idea of their own specific rights as being enhanced over others, and thinking that everybody thinks the same way they do. And I agree it is based on their overall lack of experiences.

 

I agree with all of this but I will add something extra.

Kids today think they have the same rights as an adult. The teacher is always wrong and the cop is always wrong. The sad part is parents buy into that. When the teacher calls home the parents always assumes the teacher is wrong and their child is right. The same applies with police officers. The cop is always wrong and the parent is always lying to police officers and defending their children.

I was raised in a home that NEVER wanted to get a call from the teacher. They would be embarassed! My parents would run up to school and apologize to the teacher. My parents were always on the teacher's side. If I was in trouble with the police my parents would help lock me up (that never happened). If I were speeding and got a ticket my parents would say "you probably deserved it and if the cop said you were speeding then you must have been speeding". Today the parents say things like "my child wouldn't do that" and "if my child says he didn't do it then he really didn't do it".

My point is times have changed for both the kids and parents. We live in a world where all authority among teachers and police no longer exist. It makes it real difficult for them to do their jobs and whip the younger generation back into shape. It is a result of lack of support from parents. The kids today know this and use it to their advantage. They think they have rights because their parents gave them rights.

Whatever happened to family dinners without TV's? You need family time at home. Not run around time going from the basketball to the softball to the football games.

 

I agree with all of the above Black. part of it is the two earner parenting unit, the idea of "Army" kids that MUST be "all you can be'. attitudes of what the right thing is to do, cell phones and texting, inability to set boundaries. Just tons of stuff. You can only do what you can do in your own family and hope they see the value in this. if they don't they rebel and become worse than what you see already out there. it's a roll of the dice which one you get. But if you're consistent right from the very start then the odds are good your kids will be too. Inconsistency is the killer of it all.

 

My daughter is too young... but believe me, the boundaries are already set and in place. I can tell you my daughter will whip all those problem children and exceed them in every way. I don't think my daughter is special or better than others her age... but her advantage will be the structure I will provide. She will be set up to compete and be successful in the real world as I have. She will have a brain and know how to use it.

 

good. then she'll probably have a "leg-up" and turn out sterling. I hope so.