BEGi Turbo Kit information/discussion thread
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Unless someone with an NA engine plans to forge the engine, beef up the drivetrain, and run at least 12 to 14 PSI minimum, that is not going to happen. It is all about HP and TQ.
An NA engine running 6-7 PSI is not going to be anywhere close to what the AMG engine produces.
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Hmm.. looking up the Kleeman SC. Seems 05 bar = 7.2 psi.. which is where the turbo is "reportedly" going to be... What were those HP gain guesses? And keep in mind it's not taking ponies away from the motor to compress... "I WANT MY TURBO NOWWW..AAAAHHHH.." ...
MercedesBenz SLK320 32 V6 shows gains of 113 HP and 97 lbsft Torque KLEEMANN Kompressor Systems are CARB and TUV approved and are available for all models 1997 with normally aspirated NA V6 engineFor Install Instructions CLICK HERENote Images are for representation only Actual product may vary.
Could this turn the "lowly" NA into a stock SRT6 "SLAYER" !
MercedesBenz SLK320 32 V6 shows gains of 113 HP and 97 lbsft Torque KLEEMANN Kompressor Systems are CARB and TUV approved and are available for all models 1997 with normally aspirated NA V6 engineFor Install Instructions CLICK HERENote Images are for representation only Actual product may vary.
Could this turn the "lowly" NA into a stock SRT6 "SLAYER" !
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LOL.... Truely, I would love the competition. I really would. There are a hell of lot more of you than us.... It is just too bad it seems to never pan out. I do believe there is a turboed limited out there. At least I have heard of someone running into one in the southeren states. He supposed came on the forum before my time, but wasn't treated very well as the story was told and never returned. A Ghost story, I don't know....I just don't want to see anyone chased off here that just might be able to pull this off. I am now careful what I say as not to discourage anyone from trying...but it just isn't easy, or cheap, or more importantly "fast"... It will take time... Hell, i am still finding hp mods 4 yrs down the road....starting on the coupe this next Friday... Hopefully that 62mm pulley will arrive by then... Stay positive out there...determined and positive...
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call buckhead imports. tony already tuned the twin charged srt6 eric has and he can tune the n/a for a turbo as well. i suggested this as well as e/c tuning from the beginning but they had kleeman. oops now they dont!!
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Hmm.. I'm really surprised the website only has this listed.
Chrysler SRT-6 brought for some cooling mods
Thanks for the quality parts from Needswings. This customer is now happy with his car’s performance.
And to be honest here.. we're all guessing the tune is the holdup.. Where's DJ or Lantana when you need them.. LOL. I may be way off base.. but feel they are the ones to question things..
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Hmm.. I'm really surprised the website only has this listed.
Chrysler SRT-6 brought for some cooling mods
Thanks for the quality parts from Needswings. This customer is now happy with his car’s performance.
And to be honest here.. we're all guessing the tune is the holdup.. Where's DJ or Lantana when you need them.. LOL. I may be way off base.. but feel they are the ones to question things..
10/15 days.
Yes Mrmiata, I think it is time that someone spoke to Begi on behave of all the investors on this project, I know it should not be me, because after reviewing all the posts he was involved in I would not be prepared to believe a damn thing I heard. For those of you wondering where I am coming from, please take time to review previous posts from Corky.
I want my turbo and I want it nowwwww........
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That isn't true Steve Web3.0 was working on his a long time ago. He worked and worked and worked to perfect it. Begi, is doing this on the side, as many of you already have realized. They work on it when they aren't doing their regular business...fair or not, it is what it is... Not a money maker...
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I have not been gone, just watching from the sideline. Thank you Mrmiata for being positive. I have built a lot of cars in my life. And a lot of cars that were supposed to have a strong aftermarket support, and it faded,, So to see pictures and progress, no matter how slow...It's a positive to me. Yes I wanted it yesterday, but somtimes you have to wait...
Just looking at the progress of the Miata system they developed, I really hope once this is done, kit sales take off. Stage 1 .. Stage 2.. and Stage "are you sure?"
Thinking about it too.. If the SRT6's super charger bit the dust.. how far off would going turbo be price wise etc...
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I am not as familiar with Buckhead as some others are, but if they have turboed an SRT6 as stated. I would check with them on turboing an SRT6. Good luck...but I believe parts for the amg motor will be around for awhile...
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Lets see if we can discuss a few things without squabbling on this discussion thread.
I see some of you are talking horsepower.
What do you think our stock injectors can handle for horsepower?
What is the flowrate of our stock ones?
How about our fuelpumps, how much will they be able to handle?
Where do you think he is going to tap in for oil lines to feed the turbo.?
What do you think of that ugly looking plastic MAF sensor sitting on the side of the motor.? I see some coldair intakes have a "thingy" welded on for it. I like the looks of that better.
What do you think of the pipe coming up the inside of the radiator?
Do you think it would look better coming up on the outside like a cold air intake does?
I see there is no more pictures up, I'll give it a break until next week then start my soapbox rant.
good enough for now
I see some of you are talking horsepower.
What do you think our stock injectors can handle for horsepower?
What is the flowrate of our stock ones?
How about our fuelpumps, how much will they be able to handle?
Where do you think he is going to tap in for oil lines to feed the turbo.?
What do you think of that ugly looking plastic MAF sensor sitting on the side of the motor.? I see some coldair intakes have a "thingy" welded on for it. I like the looks of that better.
What do you think of the pipe coming up the inside of the radiator?
Do you think it would look better coming up on the outside like a cold air intake does?
I see there is no more pictures up, I'll give it a break until next week then start my soapbox rant.
good enough for now
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Hmm.. looking up the Kleeman SC. Seems 05 bar = 7.2 psi.. which is where the turbo is "reportedly" going to be... What were those HP gain guesses? And keep in mind it's not taking ponies away from the motor to compress... "I WANT MY TURBO NOWWW..AAAAHHHH.." ...
Kleemann M112 SuperCharger System Mercedes SLK320 V6 R170 9604 The KLEEMANN Kompressor system for the V6 M112 engine is the very essence of the KLEEMANN slogan Comfort Power High power output combined with a low boost pressure of just 05 bar makes the system safe and provides longterm durability for the engine The KLEEMANN Kompressor System is an Eaton type supercharger with an integrated airtowater intercooler and is the only known system to combine the intake manifold kompressor and intercooler into one integral unit The intercooler is such a superior design that it holds its own patent The system design was chosen because of its ability to develop boost at very low engine revs and to maintain that boost consistently throughout the rev range until maximum engine revs is reached As a result the engine has a characteristic smooth power band with no peaks or valleys just immediate power on demand without any hesitation For nearly two decades KLEEMANN has manufactured kompressor systems exclusively for MercedesBenz engines Since the beginning KLEEMANN has continually improved on its original design to offer the most efficient powerful and safe engine tuning solution Today intensive research and development as well as the use of cuttingedge technology has turned KLEEMANN into the world leader in kompressor solutions for MercedesBenz SLK320 32 V6 shows gains of 113 HP and 97 lbsft Torque KLEEMANN Kompressor Systems are CARB and TUV approved and are available for all models 1997 with normally aspirated NA V6 engineFor Install Instructions CLICK HERENote Images are for representation only Actual product may vary.
Could this turn the "lowly" NA into a stock SRT6 "SLAYER" !
Kleemann M112 SuperCharger System Mercedes SLK320 V6 R170 9604 The KLEEMANN Kompressor system for the V6 M112 engine is the very essence of the KLEEMANN slogan Comfort Power High power output combined with a low boost pressure of just 05 bar makes the system safe and provides longterm durability for the engine The KLEEMANN Kompressor System is an Eaton type supercharger with an integrated airtowater intercooler and is the only known system to combine the intake manifold kompressor and intercooler into one integral unit The intercooler is such a superior design that it holds its own patent The system design was chosen because of its ability to develop boost at very low engine revs and to maintain that boost consistently throughout the rev range until maximum engine revs is reached As a result the engine has a characteristic smooth power band with no peaks or valleys just immediate power on demand without any hesitation For nearly two decades KLEEMANN has manufactured kompressor systems exclusively for MercedesBenz engines Since the beginning KLEEMANN has continually improved on its original design to offer the most efficient powerful and safe engine tuning solution Today intensive research and development as well as the use of cuttingedge technology has turned KLEEMANN into the world leader in kompressor solutions for MercedesBenz SLK320 32 V6 shows gains of 113 HP and 97 lbsft Torque KLEEMANN Kompressor Systems are CARB and TUV approved and are available for all models 1997 with normally aspirated NA V6 engineFor Install Instructions CLICK HERENote Images are for representation only Actual product may vary.
Could this turn the "lowly" NA into a stock SRT6 "SLAYER" !
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Trying to produce a viable kit for $3600 is a huge challenge, and undoubtedly part of the reasons behind the delays. Back when I was designing and manufacturing systems for Hemi vehicles, I spent countless hours trying to develop a routing for the crossfire. I pretty much came to the conclusion that the best route was going to be an underhood system. While it might not be as easy as a bolt on underchassis system, there were just to many routing issues and clearance problems. I still feel an underhood layout can be achieved. If things do not progress in this area, I should have time to come up with or at least get started on a tubing set this winter. But, I know it would involve pulling stock manifolds and modifying them to remove factory flanges and then weld on new flanges to bolt the system to. Just a thougth if nothing pans out with this effort for you guys. Would be fairly easy as I will just cut off a front chassis section and stick it in the corner to use as a mock up.
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Is this really an option? I've been trying to read as much as I possibly can and learn as much as I can, but some things tend to go a little over my head. Also, would it be more cost effective over just dropping in a V8? I know "just" is not the proper term, knowing that it isn't "just" that easy, but you get my point...I hope. I really hate the idea of turning in my car for an SRT when I just paid mine off. Not to mention that horrfic spolier on the back...they could have done without that.
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Right.
Unless someone with an NA engine plans to forge the engine, beef up the drivetrain, and run at least 12 to 14 PSI minimum, that is not going to happen. It is all about HP and TQ.
An NA engine running 6-7 PSI is not going to be anywhere close to what the AMG engine produces.
Unless someone with an NA engine plans to forge the engine, beef up the drivetrain, and run at least 12 to 14 PSI minimum, that is not going to happen. It is all about HP and TQ.
An NA engine running 6-7 PSI is not going to be anywhere close to what the AMG engine produces.
You also have to take into account the fact that a turbocharger does not require any power to produce boost like a supercharger does. If an SRT engine were to be turbo'd with the same pressure as the supercharger produces, without having to expend the kind of energy turning it, it would produce a whole lot more power, guaranteed.
Half the boost, without the power loss to produce the boost equals pretty close performance.
You also have to factor in the different gear ratios of the limiteds vs the srts. Although slight, the better ratio will always equal slightly better performance in the acceleration race.
Thanks. I think I'll just go with the V8 and leave this turbo mess behind me....for now.
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That was why my little "SRT Slayer" dig.. the supercharged NA produced 113 HP.. Now hit it with the same PSI on a Turbo and I would think numbers would come up even if slightly.
Oh..ok. I see what you're saying. I hope something happens soon. I'm tired of having a plain ol' limited. Ha...
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Aren't you done installing the V8 yet?
I just got back to the US. I can't put a V8 in while I'm in Kuwait...lol I'm still very interested in doing it and am awaiting a reply from lantanatx. I read a lot about it but there are some things I'm a bit fuzzy on.