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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
As I've noted in a couple other threads recently.. I couldn't in good faith deliver my car to them at this point. So should they by some chance manage to finish DJ's car, they will have to petition for a second car. Maybe I can get over to the website and look over the used Miata parts for a "refund".
Typical NA upgrades are now starting to look a little better.. throttle body..tune .. and dual CAI.. and just be happy with what "extra" I get from them. I actually can't sit here and say I'm dissapointed in my car's performance to begin with.

Hey it was a fun ride for a while in here...

Wonder if Eurocharged would offer a "Sux To Be You" turbo pitty party sale.. $250 if you were on the list.. LOL...
So sad to hear this, I know how much you were looking forward to the turbo ....
Just a note, I spoke with Rob at NW before I got my CAI, he assured me that the single was quite sufficient for the N/A motor, the dual upgrade would be for cosmetic appeal only, so save some $$$ and go with the single. I did put a larger cone K&N on mine.
Also got the EuroTune last year during the $200 special. Get some 3" 'T' clamps, the screw clamps look cheap.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 07:31 AM
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So sad to hear this, I know how much you were looking forward to the turbo ....
Just a note, I spoke with Rob at NW before I got my CAI, he assured me that the single was quite sufficient for the N/A motor, the dual upgrade would be for cosmetic appeal only, so save some $$$ and go with the single. I did put a larger cone K&N on mine.
Also got the EuroTune last year during the $200 special. Get some 3" 'T' clamps, the screw clamps look cheap.
Didn't you have access to a loaner cable? I don't think anyone in the Tulsa area is a "regular" on here .. if around at all...that makes that an option.

I'm not crazy about the looks of the single, figure a DIY dual CAI along the lines of a few members should suffice. I'm hoping to be able to find a "cheap" OEM engine cover to mod and allow tube clearance..

Just know it's time to move beyond K&N stock filter replacements for engine mods.. LOL.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 07:39 AM
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Didn't you have access to a loaner cable? I don't think anyone in the Tulsa area is a "regular" on here .. if around at all...that makes that an option.

I'm not crazy about the looks of the single, figure a DIY dual CAI along the lines of a few members should suffice. I'm hoping to be able to find a "cheap" OEM engine cover to mod and allow tube clearance..

Just know it's time to move beyond K&N stock filter replacements for engine mods.. LOL.
Yes, I have a new untested cable I got from China for around $15.
I'll be happy to let you borrow it, no guarantee to it working.
The one I used was maxcichon's, and it didn't work. ET sent me a free replacement that did work, but Max has that one now. I never tried the Chinacable.
( speaking of 'cheap' engine covers - the one in the picture below came from fleabay on a 'make an offer' : I offered $35 and GOT IT ! )
 
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by bjames
There has not been any updates or discussion for awhile , so I thought I would share the information from 2 other people from another forum I have been reading. Plus more if you want to do your own search.

"They are trying to sell the company. They lack sufficient fabricators for their kits. Amen on 6 months as I had to get my bank involved recently to get back a 60% deposit with them picking up my car, install/tune, then drive it back. The deal was struck over 6 months ago, they took $3300.00 from me and never picked up the car. Full of excuses.

I then tried to get back my deposit 6 months later and they didn't have enough funds in their account....lol! Luckily I have been with my bank for 15 years or so, and they refunded my credit card account and filed a dispute. My personal advice is not to order a kit from them until they have new, more responsible, owners.
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Unfortunately I would have to agree with Miatajunkie...they once had a good name but as of a couple years ago it has been going down hill...i shipped my car to them for a dyno tune and some other work all the way from Fl and then flew in after them having the car for 3 monthuns and when i got there the car had body damage and had new leaks and wasn't tuned or dyno'd at all...essentially they charged me almost a grand for nothing....bunch of bs I am and still very unhappy with begi "

Now I don't know the financial situation, but it seems anytime anybody is looking for a refund such as I am right now, he states he does not have the funds and please wait.
All I am saying, perhaps you should use caution and pay in a way you could retrieve funds if you had to.
With our good luck they'll be bought out by Speedriven.

Les
 
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 09:15 AM
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With our good luck they'll be bought out by Speedriven.

Les

Fingers Crossed!

They have experience @ refunds...
 
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 11:34 AM
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With our good luck they'll be bought out by Speedriven.

Les
Originally Posted by Mrmiata
Fingers Crossed!

They have experience @ refunds...
Speaking of those guys...

....Speedriven's Whipple Supercharger Upgrade.... - Page 13 - MBWorld.org Forums

Post 305 and onward, this is the header deal all over again.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 11:51 AM
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Sigh... This is not looking good once again. I was at least thinking I'd be able to get my deposit back if things went south now thats not looking good either :/ I will wait for one last official communication before making a decision but don't have any warm fuzzies (and havn't for a while). Could use that 300 for a C320 airbox and some k&ns and then go down the standard TB, tune path and be happy until another prospect comes along. That NA V8 option keeps looking better and better, if only I had the ability/tools and time.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmiata
With his money already spent.. I'm thinking a quick consult with an attorney before making moves might be in his best interest.. Else could be a turbo in the trunk and a flatbed ride home.. courts might establish some sort of restitution if it comes down to it..

Just my thoughts..
Secured creditors have first dibs on any assets, suppliers, employees and customers are at the bottom of the list and are not likely to see a dime.

Company owners on the verge of bankruptcy tend to filter all the available cash into their own pockets and transfer assets to someone else if they can. I have seen bankrupt company owners come out with no losses, while customers, suppliers and employees get screwed royally.


That's how it is in Canada and I'm sure the US way is not much different.


Tighed1's car is probably sitting in the sun with the parts in the trunk or spread all over.

Tighed1 has not posted since the end of October and visited three days before Xmas.
 

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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 01:30 PM
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I feel Ya greg. Once I made the descion to distance Myself from this project My wife was extremy happy. All she see's is the email notifications from my subscripton. And with all the doom and gloom from B J and some of the other fellas she was sure I would be very angry with the outcome.

I used the money to Buy season tickets to My Seahawks! ( great move BTW) and Purchase a truck that I really wanted. I'll have this Truck forever, and it looks like My Hawks might win the superbowl before there is a turbo coming from this project.

If You had told me that before I signed up, I never would have looked at this thread again.

GO HAWKS!
 

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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by alaxfire
Just a note, I spoke with Rob at NW before I got my CAI, he assured me that the single was quite sufficient for the N/A motor, the dual upgrade would be for cosmetic appeal only, so save some $$$ and go with the single. I did put a larger cone K&N on mine.
Also got the EuroTune last year during the $200 special. Get some 3" 'T' clamps, the screw clamps look cheap.
the single is sufficient for most na owners, the dcai has less restriction so there is power/efficiency gains there, just not twice as much as the single.

as for using t-bolt clamps. if someone wanted them instead we could ship the kit with those but i prefer the worm gears as they will not allow you to squish/damage the alumium tubing under the couplers. we use a very nice stainless worm gear clamp, not the old school crap ones that strip out the first time you try to tighten them.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 04:06 PM
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I have had my DCAI on and off a dozen times already and like the worm gear clamps.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 11:01 AM
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Hmm how much $$ to bore and stroke the 3.2? Is that how Startech got to the 3.8?
 
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 03:01 PM
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Hmm how much $$ to bore and stroke the 3.2? Is that how Startech got to the 3.8?

My ignorance is showing. Could someone please explain to me how boring and stroking (although stroking might make something bigger) a 3.2 could stretch it into a 3.8? I thought felix the cat was the only one who could grab a hold of something with a displacement (volume) of 3.2L and stretch its volume to 3.8L displacement. Is stroking a motor meaning to add bigger heads to make up for the .6L increase? Thanks for teaching this ole guy something today besides abstract cartoon physics.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 03:29 PM
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My ignorance is showing. Could someone please explain to me how boring and stroking (although stroking might make something bigger) a 3.2 could stretch it into a 3.8? I thought felix the cat was the only one who could grab a hold of something with a displacement (volume) of 3.2L and stretch its volume to 3.8L displacement. Is stroking a motor meaning to add bigger heads to make up for the .6L increase? Thanks for teaching this ole guy something today besides abstract cartoon physics.
bigger crank and bigger pistons inc the bore and stroke. ability to find the parts and the conrods to tie all together a whole nother issue
 
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 03:57 PM
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bigger crank and bigger pistons inc the bore and stroke. ability to find the parts and the conrods to tie all together a whole nother issue

But, I thought the displacement of the engine was the exterior size of the engine not the total volume of the crank/pistons. You know, it displaces 3.2L when its volume is totalized? Only way I can think of adding .6L is to make the heads larger and of course many internals then have to be upsized to make it all work. So, is it like the 318CI Chrysler of old made into a 360CI of old with the same block but bigger heads? BTW, the example I noted was the 1972 Plymouth Fury III I owned with a 360, my uncle had a 1971 Fury II with a 318CI. We both had the same block just upsized heads/internals. I am guessing the 3.8L vs the 3.2L's are the same block (essentially) with larger heads/internals?
 
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 05:11 PM
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But, I thought the displacement of the engine was the exterior size of the engine not the total volume of the crank/pistons. You know, it displaces 3.2L when its volume is totalized? Only way I can think of adding .6L is to make the heads larger and of course many internals then have to be upsized to make it all work. So, is it like the 318CI Chrysler of old made into a 360CI of old with the same block but bigger heads? BTW, the example I noted was the 1972 Plymouth Fury III I owned with a 360, my uncle had a 1971 Fury II with a 318CI. We both had the same block just upsized heads/internals. I am guessing the 3.8L vs the 3.2L's are the same block (essentially) with larger heads/internals?
cylinder bores are enlarged and crank is larger for longer stroke. combine them and you get more cubic inches or mm.
heads are basically the same size. theres a thread on mbworld were a guy went to 3.7 in a mb build. almost everything is custom made
 
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 06:00 PM
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Enlarging the bores by .318" would give you 3.8 liters, and with new cylinder liners, pistons and rings. Modify the head a little to match diameters.
OEM is 89,9 dia. x 84,0mm stroke x 6 = 3.199 liters.


How hard can it be?
Super Mario can do this for sure.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 02:01 PM
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Guess I'm just so cornfumed!

I guess motors (blocks and heads) have evolved so much from the old 318 and 360 days of Chrysler yesteryear...
 
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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 02:07 PM
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Where you been GG... this is not some "new technology"..

Engine Boring and Stroking Fundamentals - Car Craft Magazine
 
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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
Enlarging the bores by .318" would give you 3.8 liters, and with new cylinder liners, pistons and rings. Modify the head a little to match diameters.
OEM is 89,9 dia. x 84,0mm stroke x 6 = 3.199 liters.


How hard can it be?
Super Mario can do this for sure.
LOL Mr Osborn!
 
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