All of a sudden this thread is getting interesting again.
Jake - start a new thread if you're going to follow through with a street-able turbo for the N/A Crossfire....this one is just too depressing.

 

I had put off doing the "normal" N/A mods in view of the Turbo.. finally gave up and did the mods.. including ECU tune. Along came the vette, and I really had decided it would suffice for the HP fix. Being on the CAA#4 run this week, and looking at the spring Dragon, well I won't commit to anything, but I could probably be talked into a few more ponies "when" the project completes.

Jake, maybe run some numbers by the accountants and get a ball park idea, and as noted, if it looks promising on the dollar end, start up a new thread. BEGi doesn't seem to be responding to anything at this point.. emails, or facebook.

 

Jake, any chance of you willing to sell ecu programming/mods to allow the NA ecu to handle boost? I am perfectly capable of handling every other aspect of a turbo install except the ecu tuning. That would also allow me to build the kit slowly, piece by piece as I can afford it.

 

I'm not 100% but I think the NA ECU reading boost is a hardware issue, as well as software... I still think it would be better to start off with an SRT or 32 amg ECU.

 

my only problem is the hardware for the cost seems to be bottom of the barrel or ebay turbos/parts? Is this what everyone is accepting?

Just curious...

 

Beggers can't be choosers, and Corky's system was supposed to be fully upgradable.

Present us with some possible options and I have no doubt you will have some takers...

Thank you for even considering this.

 

Not in my book. Most ebay turbo parts are CRAP! I learned that years ago when I was building my 10 second turbo eclipse. You get what you pay for... quality parts for quality performance.

 

Well Beggars may not be, but well informed consumers sure can! I do think that during the BEGI debacle most of us that participated learned tons about the materials and process.

Corkys Folly was listed as $5,000 for a upgradeable turbo system. He also required down payments from 20 to get the project started ( or something like that.) There was much discussion about the pricing being on the low side.

There was much discussion during the beginning process when things were being done about the materials in the pictures. Particularly of note, the use of steel pipes. I think everyone agreed that We would rather have stainless steel pipes that will not rust as some of our Garage queens sit for the 6 month rainy season.

Quality is just as negotiable as pricing and costs.

Thank You Jake for looking into this for us. I do think that there is sufficient interest in a Turbo system for N/A's for You to at least come up with ideas and perhaps preliminary pricing.

 

i agree with o5roadsterguy, also can our stock trannies handle the boost? the srts are beefed up in the tranny depo

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but it's just clutch packs and a different tuned TCU right?

 

Mmm. Thats interesting. . I would imagine its mostly a tuned tcu with a bigger trans cooler for the autos. Basically to turbo a car all you need are the parts.. install them correctly.. and be able to tune it succefully . The mechanical part of the installation would be pretty straight forward.. you could have some type of custom manifold built to support the turbo or the cheaper way out would be have it mounted in the rear of the car and just plumb the aluminum 2" pipe to the intercooler. Not sure how much room is under the car to run the pipe since I haven't jacked mine up yet. You could use a stock supra side mount intercooler and mount it under the fender well and get airflow through the fog light hole. then plumb the intercooler to the TB.. then its just a matter of installing the mass air flow sensor to monitor airflow. I know Im leaving a lot of the small things out but you get my drift. The real tricky part would be the tuning aspect of it , which I have no idea about. I would assume running 8- 10 pounds of boost through a na block would be okay but Im no expert, just thinking out loud.

 

Not sure on the trans cooler. Never heard anything about it. LantanaTX swapped clutch packs and called it a day to hold his V8. I know there are differences on the TCU, but not sure if it's a flash file or a different unit (probably flash), but that it restricts torque differently. The original BEGi design, that the members came up with would have been perfect. But the MAF would need replacement with MAP and wired correctly to new ECU, either SRT or 32 amg like I was saying before. With 8 lbs you would be fine on stock everything, no intake mani or internal upgrades. Beyond that... research.

 

I believe you are correct, but I am in the same boat as you are with the V8 swap. I am keeping my 6 speed come hell or high water, whether it be behind a turbo'd V6 or a NA V8. I just want to be sure I can have something that will run and not sit in the garage because the ECU wont let it run. I don't have the option of running aftermarket as I have to pass an emission test via the OBD port.

If I had an automatic I would have gone reflashed SRT ECU, rewired a little bit and charged it and been done. Tweaking the boost curve would have been easy compared to trying to get one to work with a manual trans.

 

The emissions testing is what truly scared me but the way it works out and what you can change in DAS eliminates any sort of problem. The whole sit in the garage thing sucks but when I started no one could do this. Now there are claims from some that say they can but it's still up in the air until me or Jim are up and running.

The SRT and 32 amg ECU can be coded for the manual in DAS. The reason is they still retain the hardware and software you would need. This is why I think it would be easy to get a turbo xfire running. The actual tune itself needs to be configured by a pro, like eurocharged. My software for that still doesn't work. But I could easily get someone a turn key ECU coded to their car to read boost, just need a new map, which would probably be cake walk for eurocharged.

 

This is the info I have been looking for, but I don't have the time or funds to play Guinea Pig with this right now. Like I said the hardware stuff is easy, its the electronics that have me concerned. That is where the frustration in the project lies.

 

Totally understood. Everyday I consider selling my bike to try out Rudy's turn key ECU that just needs some adjustments in DAS. I am nervous however because of the funding and the fact that so many people have tried so many different things in the past. No matter how I get my car running, I will still push on with my ideas so that I can try to help others get different types of heavy mods running. Plus I would love to try and turbo the V8 eventually.

 

wholly cow....steel? Seriously?????

Ya, your posts were kinda what I was thinking as well. I wouldn't want to put our name on a product like that with crap hardware/cheap turbos/ and steel piping...just not who we are.

I guess I was kinda picturing ball bearing turbos, stainless tubing, and decent quality cooling products. Just those parts alone are in the 2k range if not a smidge more.

 

Well the close of another business week has come and gone. No update from Corky. Maybe another 2 weeks,2 weeks.
On the other hand their has been a lot of interesting chit chat on this thread that I enjoyed reading.

 

I would absolutely get a turbo through Eurocharged. I would just need a ball park $ to start saving!

 

Hey does Eurocharged still have a location in the Chicago Illinois area? I couldn't find an address on the website.