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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUpXFire
DJ, you have already been more patient than anyone else on the planet, thank you for sticking it out so long. I sincerely hope they can and will return the car, but if it is in pieces and they could not even figure out how to dyno it, you may be in trouble.

Either way, I hope you get the car and money back, the heartache is enough to deal with. Thanks for trying to be a pioneer, we really do appreciate it and all you do for the forum
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I second this.
Originally Posted by ala_xfire
I third it.



I forth it, you have been such a staunch supporter. I hope this ends well for you and your car is in good shape. Few have contributed as much as you in a broad spread of XF projects, MODS and repairs. Thank you for your contributions!
 
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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tighed1
UNCLE!
I give.
It's been two years.
I sent Corky an email requesting the return of my car.

Sorry folks.
No need for sorry here, You were more than patient with Corkys shenanigans. You lasted longer than the guy that left after a year with his turbo in his trunk.
I believe you gave us all a lesson in patience. If our lives ever cross paths I would be
honored to buy you a few drinks of your choice for all the effort you have put into this.
We would all be interested in what kind of song and dance Corky may try to give you when he realises your done with this project. Are you sure you don't want to give it two more weeks....just joking. Hope everything works out for you.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 07:40 AM
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Hey DJ your patience has been very appreciated. Let me know when you get your car back, we'll have to go for another cruise with just the blaze red 6MT's.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 06:34 AM
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I think this is the way that none of us wanted to see this journey end, but we all expected none-the-less. Thanks for sticking it out for our benefit and hope!

Unfortunately, I have a feeling this thread will have plenty more posts in the future as we learn of the song and dance on why they can't return the car and how they're ALMOST there. When does the legal system get involved to rescue an illegally held asset?
 
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 08:23 AM
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The legal system does not get involved until someone involves it. Hopefully it will work out but once the decision is made to move forward then it is best to move quickly. It may be necessary to just show up where the car is with a tow truck and a sheriff. If were me I'd be consulting a lawyer if there is any sign of resistance.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Padgett
The legal system does not get involved until someone involves it. Hopefully it will work out but once the decision is made to move forward then it is best to move quickly. It may be necessary to just show up where the car is with a tow truck and a sheriff. If were me I'd be consulting a lawyer if there is any sign of resistance.
That's my point - with their resistance to giving back people's deposits, what confidence do we have that they'll just up and turn over the car? I'd almost want to have a lawyer on speed dial when I went to pick it up!

Of course, I hope this is all hyperbole and BEGi realizes that the jig is up and that they can't keep fleecing their customers and that they give back the car without question or hesitation.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 09:45 AM
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Just a final thought. IMNSHO the place for boost is in a diesel. To "be all that it can be" taking a modern high compression gas engine and just adding a turbo is an exercise in futility.

Back in the 80s with the CR of a 455 in the 7's sure but to start at 10:1, sorry Charlie.

Lacking direct injection there is a limit to the compression pressure a gas engine can sustain before you get into massive detonation. That the E32 requires dual plugs (both in the wrong place) and premium gas to function normally is not a good sign.

One of the things AMG does in the SRT is to lower the compression ratio 10% to 9:1. This has two effects:
1) reduce the base chamber pressure
2) increase the combustion chamber volume
and it is the second that is most important because when you use boost to restore the max cylinder pressure it gets 10% more air/gas. You could really make more hp by dropping the CR to 8:1 and increasing the boost.

As it is, I suspect the stock supercharger is limited to about 5-7 psi max, is that correct ? In the great scheme of things 315 lb-ft of torque from a 3.2 is not that much. Jeep has a turbo 3.0 in the Grand Cherokee that makes 420 lb-ft but that takes direct injection.

Now obviously to put a 3,000 lb car in the 11's with a 3.2 is a remarkable achievement but I expect things to be a bit strained and detonation a real problem (av gas ?)

Know some do not like it but the E32/M112 and even the M272 (DOHC/4valve/plug in the right place) come off rather poorly against the later M276/Pentastar V-6s.

For about the same price as a turbo, you could install a later engine and am sure someone like Diablo could help. Parts from the Boyz with Vigor even.
 

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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 03:15 PM
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We could even sell our N/A's and with the price difference of FI or engine swap .. just buy a decent used 6..

You haven't noticed.. but that is not what this thread is/was about..

There are already several engine swap threads available.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 04:49 PM
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NP just where is the Anzani R1 thread...
 
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 04:55 PM
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Do a search.. if you don't find it.. feel free to start a topic.. I'm sure there will be tons of interested followers..
 
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 04:57 PM
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I'm done replying the same exact thing to the same exact person regarding engine swaps. However, for the record. I have only ran accross two people who would prefer a different manufacturers motor in these cars...
 
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 04:58 PM
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Hey me and doc might jump on a Blown 454 swap.. LOL It worked out on a foreign car here.. oh.. might need you to tweak me a "daily driver" tune file though..

 

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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 05:02 PM
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Back in July 2012 we were guessing the hp of a turboed Crossfire, and this was what I said. CLICK
Guess I would be a bit richer if we had money on it.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 05:07 PM
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That's okay 180.. your richer in personality now than back then..
 
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Old Jan 23, 2014 | 09:41 PM
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LMAO… Please don't LOL
 
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Old Jan 24, 2014 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by sk8erjosh09
I'm done replying the same exact thing to the same exact person regarding engine swaps. However, for the record. I have only ran accross two people who would prefer a different manufacturers motor in these cars...
Full disclosure, not entirely in the spirit of the thread, but kinda.

Personally, I'd vote for the OM642 (though I believe Padgett was implying the new VM diesel in his post).

At around 300/470 in my GC, and still netting 19/25 mpg with the turbo already there, I would love to see this kinda swap.

Kinda stirring the pot, but as I typed this out, the more I like the idea.

Anywho, pardon the interruption.
 

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Old Jan 24, 2014 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by S. Artee
Full disclosure, not entirely in the spirit of the thread, but kinda.

Personally, I'd vote for the OM642 (though I believe Padgett was implying the new VM diesel in his post).

At around 300/470 in my GC, and still netting 19/25 mpg with the turbo already there, I would love to see this kinda swap.

Kinda stirring the pot, but as I typed this out, the more I like the idea.

Anywho, pardon the interruption.
I was all for weird custom out of the box swaps, until I talked to people who knew what they were talking about... Then I learned modern car electronics, and all it really comes down to is, is it worth the cost, time and hassel? Any numbers over what we have seem attractive, but put it into perspective. For half the hassel, cost and time you could have a factory 55K crossfire which could still be diagnosed (and believe me, you want Star DAS) and you would be around 493/516. Screw gas mileage, I'll take a rocket ship.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2014 | 11:13 AM
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Oh for sure! I was merely dreaming of a diesel XF, matched with the gears of the 6MT and you'd have a real stump puller.

But I agree and have a healthy respect for the hurdles of swaps. It's nothing like it used to be back in the days of A bodies and 340cid small blocks. Kinda miss the simplicity at times. That is, until I climb behind the wheel of anything I drive nowadays.

Sorry again for the thread jack, I understand a lot of time and patience has been sacrificed in this BEGI endeavor.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2014 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob_Ham
I think this is the way that none of us wanted to see this journey end, but we all expected none-the-less. Thanks for sticking it out for our benefit and hope!

Unfortunately, I have a feeling this thread will have plenty more posts in the future as we learn of the song and dance on why they can't return the car and how they're ALMOST there. When does the legal system get involved to rescue an illegally held asset?
Originally Posted by Padgett
The legal system does not get involved until someone involves it. Hopefully it will work out but once the decision is made to move forward then it is best to move quickly. It may be necessary to just show up where the car is with a tow truck and a sheriff. If were me I'd be consulting a lawyer if there is any sign of resistance.
Good advice but Whoo Whoo, let's not get the Sheriff to saddle up the posse yet and gather up the greatest legal minds in the country, and hold off on the Drones nuking Texas. Corky had to know this day was coming, possibly waiting for this day, hell they have been walking by a Crossfire in their shop for 2 years, knowing the owner would like it back someday.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2014 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bjames
Good advice but Whoo Whoo, let's not get the Sheriff to saddle up the posse yet and gather up the greatest legal minds in the country, and hold off on the Drones nuking Texas. Corky had to know this day was coming, possibly waiting for this day, hell they have been walking by a Crossfire in their shop for 2 years, knowing the owner would like it back someday.
It's Friday.. they may be having a TGIO party after work..


THANK GOD IT'S OVER.. LOL
 
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