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Old Oct 23, 2015 | 07:57 AM
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 09:15 AM
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Hey CDC. I have been on this forum for years. The fact is the aftermarket support for our car is frustratingly limited. I have a cold air intake, bigger TB, injectors, ecu tune, exhaust, plenum spacers there are a few high ticket items left for me to buy but the reward is not worth the cost. Look into the engine swap. I have been weighing out which direction I want to go with the car for a while now. Here is my main issue with everything being MB based and a limited aftermarket anything produced is extremlely expensive. On top of that the computer is a pain in the *** to tune. I am currently taking night classes for welding so after I become confident enough I am just going to yank everything out and do an LS/T56 swap. Why because 'murica! I lose my my abs/bas and TC but wide tires big brakes and common sense will get me through. I love the crossfire but fact is its just slow. The cold hard facts is right now I cant afford a vette so I will make the best with what I have with a car I love.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Sodamhot
...I am just going to yank everything out and do an LS/T56...
Come on, do a hemi swap, keep it Chrysler.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by pioneer4x4
Come on, do a hemi swap, keep it Chrysler.

Lol I remember seeing video of someone that had a hemi in a crossfire. Honestly though the support for the LS is strong it would just make my life easier. Plus I can get a low mileage LS cheaper than a hemi and I grew up on GM so that has a big part to play also
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 12:57 PM
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OTOH I'd drop a 3.6 Pentastar in. 285hp stock, 305HP available NA and bolts up to the 6 speed or automagic trans (used in the Wrangler). Can keep the abs. I like DOHC 6s.
http://www.jeep.com/hostc/bmo/CUJ201...do#/powertrain

ps if going with boost, the Merc SLK350 engine is a similar family but has direct injection for higher MCP on pump gas.
 

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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 01:48 PM
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OTOH I'd drop a 3.6 Pentastar in. 285hp stock, 305HP available NA and bolts up to the 6 speed or automagic trans (used in the Wrangler). Can keep the abs. I like DOHC 6s..
That is a good idea, never really thought about that. That would be a significant increase in power, and keep it Chrysler.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 01:54 PM
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AND !!!!!!
You could put one of these puppys on it :

Sprintex Supercharger for the Dodge Ram 1500 with 3.6L Pentastar V6 - Engine Builder Magazine
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 03:15 PM
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MSRP: $5,495 ugh, but that would be badassery!
You would need a complete wiring harness from a donor vehicle with computers, but it is nice to dream. It would still be cheaper than messing with the stock 3.2 though, but getting a SRT6 is still the best bang for the buck.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 04:05 PM
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I am going to stick to my plan ls/t56 maybe some boost I make 500-600rwhp reliable. All the support in the world. I am going to start shopping this month for my setup. I plan on doing the swap beginning f Dec
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Sodamhot
I am going to stick to my plan ls/t56 maybe some boost I make 500-600rwhp reliable. All the support in the world. I am going to start shopping this month for my setup. I plan on doing the swap beginning f Dec

You may want to read this post.
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...-swap-2-a.html
It seems like the only engine swap that keeps the owner's attention (for very long) is the Mercedes V8. Even the Hemi Crossfire was put up for sale not very long after it was completed.
Don't get me wrong, I personally have no problem with engine swaps, I love the sound a healthy "American" V8 makes. But except for a handful of Crossfire's with Mercedes V8's, most any swap automatically kills a cars resale value. But since the Crossfire's resale is in the dumpster anyways, it really doesn't matter.
I did find the comments about "keeping it Chrysler" (by using the 3.8 V6) interesting, since the car is mechanically all Mercedes.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 08:51 PM
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OK, make it Chrysler and use the Pentastar or go bananas and use the DOHC SLK350 engine, it or the Pentastar should bolt in, you'll just pay a lot more for a Merc and the Pentastar is designed for 87 PON.

Whatever as long as it is an aluminum engine and not an old iron cam-in block.
 

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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 09:42 PM
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OK, make it Chrysler and use the Pentastar or go bananas and use the DOHC SLK350 engine, it or the Pentastar should bolt in, you'll just pay a lot more for a Merc and the Pentastar is designed for 87 PON.
305 hp on 87 octane, imagine boost and premium

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Even the Hemi Crossfire was put up for sale not very long after it was completed.

I did find the comments about "keeping it Chrysler" (by using the 3.8 V6) interesting, since the car is mechanically all Mercedes.
It's downside was the turbo 350 trans and high rpm cruising, from what I remember.

I think a turbo or twin gt25 ball bearing turbo pentastar v6 would be awesome in our cars.
Impressive hp numbers coming out of a pentstar turbo in wranglers, challengers and all chrysler vechicles.
Have looked into it, can't find a standalone ecu and harness for the pentastar.

But definitely agree keep it chrysler.
I like the idea of the pentastar over a mb v8.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by +fireamx
You may want to read this post.
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...-swap-2-a.html
It seems like the only engine swap that keeps the owner's attention (for very long) is the Mercedes V8. Even the Hemi Crossfire was put up for sale not very long after it was completed.
Don't get me wrong, I personally have no problem with engine swaps, I love the sound a healthy "American" V8 makes. But except for a handful of Crossfire's with Mercedes V8's, most any swap automatically kills a cars resale value. But since the Crossfire's resale is in the dumpster anyways, it really doesn't matter.
I did find the comments about "keeping it Chrysler" (by using the 3.8 V6) interesting, since the car is mechanically all Mercedes.
Yeah, but the vin and emblems are Chrysler, and the prototype has a Chrysler v6! For me this is all just an exercise in dreaming, and any swap with a engine that was made to bolt to the same manual has to be much easier to get to work, assuming packaging fits.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by pioneer4x4
any swap with a engine that was made to bolt to the same manual has to be much easier to get to work, assuming packaging fits.
Making it fit and making it run are two different things, why a heavy cast iron hemi would be easier, plenty of options for a complete standalone harness and ecu with easily tune ability, for a price less then the cost of the ecu flash to put a mb m113 v8 in.
And lots of parts and upgrade.
Yes the pentastar is a promising engine and should bolt to our 6 spd, but I been looking for quite awhile and there is no standalone harness and ecu for the pentastar so it can be swapped into any other vechicle then what it came in.

Anyone have any info if stock ecu can be returned to ignore the sensors that is not needed and can run without the gauge cluster?
 
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 11:01 AM
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I don t think I would consider pentastar v6. 1. I am on a budget 2. Abudance of LS variants 3. They make evertything you can think of for this platform. Our resale value is shot anyway and being married now and planning a family I dont think I could convienvce my wife for me to buy another project car. So I am going to work with this cool little car we all love give it the power it looks like it has and keep it forever
 
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 11:09 AM
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If a ls is what you want to do I say go for it, your car you money your ideas, what ever you like is upto you not anyone else's.
A ls has been done in a xfire.
Even a 4g63 has been done.
Make a thread and post your progress and pics.
I just saying if it was me, I could not bring myself into putting a ls in a chrysler.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 12:38 PM
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Cast iron hemi is just 100 lbs more then our v6
 
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedy4x4
Cast iron hemi is just 100 lbs more then our v6

ha ha Speedy you and my dad would be friends Mopar to the end
 
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sodamhot

ha ha Speedy you and my dad would be friends Mopar to the end
I like many makes and models other than mopar, just not a fan of mixing makes.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 11:30 PM
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If it were me, I'd not put a heavier engine in. For one thing, our motor is likely to be running when the others have rusted to dust or at least need a total redo due to worn components. Any weight change upsets the balance, hence the handling, which is one of the cars' strong suits.
 
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