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Pop just got a 05 Chrysler Crossfire. Been trying to figure out why the top doesn't work. When pulling the D ring he said the windows used to roll down but no longer.
There actually is a loose connector than runs on the right side of the trunk from the central locking pump and not sure where it goes.
Last edited by Sleepysempai; Feb 18, 2025 at 09:19 PM.
That is a sensor switch for the divider. The divider must be in place in order for the top to work. It appears the switch is laying there broke off. Jump the connector to see if the top will work. Be sure nothing is in the way. Some one on this forum does make a replacement.
Pop just got a 05 Chrysler Crossfire. Been trying to figure out why the top doesn't work. When pulling the D ring he said the windows used to roll down but no longer.
There actually is a loose connector than runs on the right side of the trunk from the central locking pump and not sure where it goes.
The wire with the connector on the floor looks like the wire for your trunk light.
The big gray piece laying on the floor looks like the holder for the trunk divider.
If you look on the left side of the trunk, there is another gray plastic piece with a curve in it that looks like the one laying on the floor.
The trunk divider hooks into both of those gray pieces. One of the pieces has a switch on the top. This allows the top to go down. If the trunk divider is not hitting the switch, the top will not go down with the button.
You can reattach that gray piece, and try putting the trunk divider up and see if it works.
However, if the windows aren't rolling down, there is a micro switch located on the metal part above where the passenger's head would be (North American cars). That switch may be stuck or bad.
Here is an excellent thread created by pizzaguy that goes through every sensor on the roadster. It makes trouble shooting much easier:
Follow that link and read at least the first 4-5 posts and you will know more than you ever imagined. I put up pictures of the sensors and their locations, as well as descriptions of how the system works.
It appears that you have an easy one - looks like the divider switch has been removed/whatever.
The divider switch/sensor is in the DRIVER's side. The passenger side has no sensor.
ONE THING, even if that divider sensor is bad/disconnected, the windows should go down when the "D" handle is turned. If the windows fail to go down, then the power top module is not powered up, the latch retainer switch in the frame is bad, or the Body Control module has a problem.
Again, go read the first several posts I made in that thread and you will understand.
If I could see what the trunk light connector looks like it might help me out since i couldn't find that connector. It could possibly explain why my OBDII says the trunk is always open.
If I could see what the trunk light connector looks like it might help me out since i couldn't find that connector. It could possibly explain why my OBDII says the trunk is always open.
1) You are making assumptions that are wasting your time. The "liftgate" sense is pin 13 of connector C1 on the CLP/SSM. This tells the security system that the liftgate (trunk) lid is open or closed. This pin does NOT control the trunk light.
2) What year is the car?
2005-2006: Trunk light is wired to the interior light circuit (dome light), not connected in such a way that the ECU knows that the trunk is open. There is a separate switch that drives the "trunk open" indication.
2007-2008: This one is unknown, I know the trunk light does not drive the dome light at all but I can't say exactly how it is wired. But it would in contrary to their designs for the trunk light switch to drive the CLP/SSM "trunk status" indication; not saying it is impossible they did that, just unlikely.
3) If you want to get into this, I encourage you. But you MUST get the service manual out and start going thru the diagrams so that you understand how the systems work. EXAMLPE: Being distracted by the trunk light being on is a rookie mistake that will waste DAYS of your time. I urge you to sit with the wiring diagrams and read - this will raise questions in your mind that you must clarify before proceeding. I've been here 15 years and I an still uncovering oddities - like I had no idea the trunk light wiring varied until I bought my 2007 Roadster and observed some differences that everyone said did not exist; all Crossfires are not wired the same, changes were made in 2007.
Today I went and adjusted the rear bow microswitch(the one with the lever sitting over it), which I saw was stuck in the unlock position, and examined the latch retainer switch was in proper order. When turning the D ring the windows go down and operate via switch. The spoiler now works via switch as well. I think the problem remains with why the liftgate says unlocked when closed. Will keep y'all posted.
Correction, the locking mechanisms work fine. The real problem lies in the position switch of the decklid. Position of the trunk is stuck at open. Can't really find it in the diagrams but from what I've read on the convertible top sensor forum that the position switch may be internal. Still curious about what that loose connector may be. Nearly there.
Last edited by Sleepysempai; Feb 20, 2025 at 03:11 PM.
My apologies. Let's back it up to those photos of the connector. That runs from the central locking pump to the deck lid position switch according to my wiring diagrams. I unfortunately cannot find said switch or don't have it. BRN/BLU wire.
My apologies. Let's back it up to those photos of the connector. That runs from the central locking pump to the deck lid position switch according to my wiring diagrams. I unfortunately cannot find said switch or don't have it. BRN/BLU wire.
Going back to your original photo, I still believe that wire is for the trunk light.
here is a picture of mine. It seems to be the same connector. I'll take a picture of the actual light in place, the wiring and the connector tomorrow. Maybe it will help.
My apologies. Let's back it up to those photos of the connector. That runs from the central locking pump to the deck lid position switch according to my wiring diagrams. I unfortunately cannot find said switch or don't have it. BRN/BLU wire.
If that is the BRN/BLU wire from CLP/SSM connector C1 pin 13, it goes to the "liftgate lock switch", not the "decklid".
"Decklid" is a term sometime used for the tonneau lid.
"Liftgate" is their term for what I would call the 'trunk lid'.
My fault y'all after pulling the latch assembly and seeing the connectors i now see i was off on my diagrams. I did pull the integral microswitch and striker on a crossfire from a junkyard and put it in the current latch assembly and still nothing. Will keep y'all updated.
So far the top switch is no longer blinking, but is solid red and there's a beep when pressing the button.
Last edited by Sleepysempai; Feb 24, 2025 at 03:51 PM.
My fault y'all after pulling the latch assembly and seeing the connectors i now see i was off on my diagrams. I did pull the integral microswitch and striker on a crossfire from a junkyard and put it in the current latch assembly and still nothing. Will keep y'all updated.
So far the top switch is no longer blinking, but is solid red and there's a beep when pressing the button.
That indicates that the PTCM thinks the last top cycle did not complete. This can be an "out of sync" situation (easy to clear) or a real problem (not always easy, but not hopeless).
Do the manual top resync with the engine running and see if that clears it.
(See post 9 here: https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ispreloading=1 )