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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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I thought the term "Pig" went out with "Adam 12" and the rest of the 70's.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pizzaguy
That's it! Those daydreamers and last-minute light runners are a real danger.
A friend of mine lost his only daughter and his only grandchild in an incident when they were t'boned by a drunk driver who failed to stop at a stop sign. This was a few years after he had buried his only son who had died in a motorcycle crash. Tragic is the only word to use.
I do not use the word accident as there is always at least one person who causes these incidents. The police here do not use the word accident these days and I agree with them.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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IF the drunk were to survive the crash and me, they should not drive AGAIN, period.

So much for being a conservative that does not vote with all of the GOP.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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you can always do what this guy did:

Man chases down cop and lives to tell about it (Updated with interview)
 
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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Rob M that is great. It says it right there in the middle The deputy, Jason Campbell, was disciplined for violating department policy by speeding, Giddens said. Campbell was not answering a call at the time and did not have his lights flashing as is required when an officer is exceeding the speed limit in the line of duty. Also if a cop is not required to have his or her lights on while above the speed limit aren't the doing the exact same thing that any other person above the speed limit is doing. Speeding is against the law and a cop that is going above the posted speedlimit with no lights is SPEEDING.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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Maybe we should let cops do what ever they want and then we will all be just like Rodney King. Make sure none or you guys go on a labor strike or thing such as the Great Raildroad Strike of 1877, the Pullman of 1894, the Lawrence textile strike of 1912, the Ludlow massacre of 1914, the Steel Strike of 1919, and the Hanapeepe Massacre of 1924 could happen. Maybe all minorites are now going to have to watch there back so they dont get killed or beating becuase of racism. Lets not even try to make a group to go against them because then maybe 34 of us will get killed just like the Black Panther Party. But wait 15 cops were also killed so im sure they were awarded for they great achements and the 34 were missed but were also look at as killers. So now I am going to sit back and let a cop rip apart my car because he feels like it. We can argue about this for years and years. It is not going to help at all. Cops are never going to change because they love the power. People are also never going to change there thoughts because they will always see a cop who thinks they are above the law and then belive that every single cop is just like him or her.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 06:31 PM
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Sure seems crummy pay for such hard, dangerous and thankless work. Personally, I'm glad they're around.

But whether they'd be around when I need them is another story.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by cassidyrj1
Maybe we should let cops do what ever they want and then we will all be just like Rodney King. Make sure none or you guys go on a labor strike or thing such as the Great Raildroad Strike of 1877, the Pullman of 1894, the Lawrence textile strike of 1912, the Ludlow massacre of 1914, the Steel Strike of 1919, and the Hanapeepe Massacre of 1924 could happen. Maybe all minorites are now going to have to watch there back so they dont get killed or beating becuase of racism. Lets not even try to make a group to go against them because then maybe 34 of us will get killed just like the Black Panther Party. But wait 15 cops were also killed so im sure they were awarded for they great achements and the 34 were missed but were also look at as killers. So now I am going to sit back and let a cop rip apart my car because he feels like it. We can argue about this for years and years. It is not going to help at all. Cops are never going to change because they love the power. People are also never going to change there thoughts because they will always see a cop who thinks they are above the law and then belive that every single cop is just like him or her.
You are 18, right?

You mind will function SO differently in 30 years (or even 10).

Evil Knievel could not have made the leaps you just did!
 
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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Yep a young 18. I still have a lot more to learn. I also do think that I take a much different look at life then most 18 year olds do. I have never smoke pot i have been drunk once in my life and that was also the only time I have ever had alchol. I actually take care of the things that my parents give me. I have much respect for most police. Its just that I am only 18 and I think that is against me. Every time except for once the cop has a suspision that I have something to hide. My mother had a brand new 2009 Range Rover that she let me take to my prom. This was held at a country club and when I was pulling out of the place I was pulled over and searched. I am with my girlfriend and two other friends. We were all patted down and the truck was torn apart never put back together. That was extremely embarrassing to have all your friends drive by you to see you being patted down. It was even worse pulling into my driveway with the truck being torn apart. My mother was sick when she saw the truck it was not even two weeks old and there was 3 grand in damage to the truck from the police. We tried to sue the police for the damage but according to the court they were not held responsible for any damage. The next time I was in my step fathers Toyota Fj cruiser the TRD edition. Its all black and again I was pulled over and searched. This time after I was searched they cop said he was sorry and gave me his cell phone number and told me to call him on the weekend and he would help me put the truck back together. I called him and we spend a hour putting the truck back together. Time and time we hang out and he tells me about the people he has to put up with. I have also been pulled over in my old car, a 2006 black cts that was fun to have a dog barking at me while trying to get out of the car. Again that car was also searched by 4 New Jersey State troopers leaving me to put it all back together. I learned how to put a headliner back in after that one. That last one was in the crossfire I was pulled over for having those blue lights under my headlights. I told them I would take them out right then and there. I got out of the car and took them out. When i was getting back into my car the cop stopped me and said they were going to bring down a dog and they were going to search my car. They tore the entire car apart so bad i had to have it towed back to my house. The took both seats out, all the panels in the back out, just about all the carpet, the center consol, and the air filters. I have had bad experinces with police. Now I have also had friends who are police who are great guys. You may think its strange that i am friends with people that are much older than me but its hard now adays trying to find any one around my age that like the same things i do.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 07:24 PM
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Anyone who thinks the policeman pulled HIM or HER over just to ruin his/her day or to excercise their POWER has too high an opinion of themselves.

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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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sure glad I am retiring in few months, with all you cop haters out there...I'm getting real scared now...and Lee....does it ever change???? I see prison tats for some reason....anyway...let me put this as simple as simple can be and I proved this to a supervisor who was giving me a bad time for speeding in my patrol car...465 in afternoon traffic ...I put myself in the left lane and set my cruise on 55, the posted the speed limit...in about 15 minutes of this style of driving I had traffic backed up for miles...trust me, you are better off when I am speeding, just fall in behind me and get over it....its a job, someone tells us where we need to patrol, where we need to slow people down, how much paper we should write, respond to "calls for service" such as toughguy beating his wife, choking his neighbor over the dog barking, threatening Franc for being honest...or telling Lee, a police officer, to F....himself.......but all in all its a job, and there are good ones and there are bad ones just like any other job...now that my law enforcement career is coming to close and my trucking business has taken off...things are a lot more calm...I'll just run over your @ss now rather than stop you....LOL>>>
 

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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
Anyone who thinks the policeman pulled HIM or HER over just to ruin his/her day or to excercise their POWER has too high an opinion of themselves.

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I hope that not towards me. I didn't saw that they pulled me over to ruin my day.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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I hope that not towards me. I didn't saw that they pulled me over to ruin my day.
Nope, just friendly advice from a crabby old fart that has seen this to often, to long from both sides.
Had my car torn apart more than once when I was a youngster. Looking for drugs, they said. But never found them. It had nothing to do with the patches of rubber I left on the road all over town. It had nothing to do with the speeding tickets that showed up when they ran my license. It had nothing to do with the loud exhaust or the cut outs on my headers.

As the good Ol Doc 2U says, to them it is a job. The cops treat you with the respect you give them. But always, they must be in control of the situation.

It's not a Cop thing. It's paramount to their survival and making the road safe from youthful exherburance and thoughtless jerks.


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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 07:43 PM
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I hear you cassidyrj1, I was stopped in my car in my early twenties and driven to the police station. After an hour of questions and me wondering WTF was going on, they found out the car, my car, had been reported stolen. They thought I had stolen my own car.
My son drove down to NYC to see the Boss the other weekend and at the border he (27 years old), his wife, two friends and the car were searched. It took an hour before they were on the road again. They do not look like dope heads or terrorists. He has been stopped many times in his car when he was younger for no reason at all. No one stops me now as I am too old to be any problem, I just wish I looked like one.
The last time I was stopped was when I slid through a stop sign on a sheet of ice on the road, I did not get a ticket as I showed the officer why he should phone the township instead of giving out tickets. I later went to the station and complained about his attitude and his lack of common sense. I left them laughing when I told them he would not be making detective.
Just suck it up and keep the lips sealed, leave the complaining and lip to old geezers like me.
 

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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
It had nothing to do with the patches of rubber I left on the road all over town. It had nothing to do with the speeding tickets that showed up when they ran my license. It had nothing to do with the loud exhaust or the cut outs on my headers.

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Well I can say I have never put down rubber. I pay for my tires and they arn't cheap. I have also yet to have a speeding ticket. Im pretty sure that I also have never put cut outs or any exhausts on my car.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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trust me 180, many of them don't make detective...some are lucky to just make it home at night...well, I can't leave it a just that...maybe we should say, some are more professional than others...

I would make this suggestion, especially to the younger viewers, go by the police station, and see if they will allow you to do a "ride along"...some dept's allow this...it is interesting to most civilians...and in fact, the civilians I have had ride with me, would have been even more strict than me on some of my stops...anyway...just an idea...
 

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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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[quote=oledoc2u]sure glad I am retiring in few months, with all you cop haters out there...I'm getting real scared now...and Lee....does it ever change???? I see prison tats for some reason....anyway...let me put this as simple as simple can be and I proved this to a supervisor who was giving me a bad time for speeding in my patrol car...465 in afternoon traffic ...I put myself in the left lane and set my cruise on 55, the posted the speed limit...in about 15 minutes of this style of driving I had traffic backed up for miles...trust me, you are better off when I am speeding, just fall in behind me and get over it....quote]
I was on a four lane highway and everyone was doing over the limit. The limit was 100 kph and we were all at 110-120, you can get away with 120 if the road is clear and its safe. Well this cop was doing just over 120 and catching everyone up, when he was spotted in the rear views everyone slowed to 100 except for one smart ar$e, he pulled in behind the cruiser and disappeared out of sight. We caught up with him with the cop at his window. Speeding, tailgating or both he was getting a ticket, we all laughed.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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I always find it amazing when people find out that the neighbor who volunteers to help others, donates their off duty time and/or are the pillar of the community is a cop. For many, they suddenly turn against the neighbor and express all the same prejudices and behaviors they find abhorrent in some police officers!

Grow up! There are good and bad cops, businessmen, teachers, soldiers, judges, doctors, tradesmen, etc. Don't hold a grudge against any group but make sure individuals who don't meet their own professional standards are held accountable! That also means that when you don't meet your own professions standards you should be held accountable!

It was amazing on 12 September 2001, I didn't see one person on TV who said that all those cops who died in the Trade Towers deserved it because they were cops - face it, it is easy to hate law enforcement until you need them!
 
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by oledoc2u
sure glad I am retiring in few months, with all you cop haters out there...I'm getting real scared now...and Lee....does it ever change???? I see prison tats for some reason....anyway...let me put this as simple as simple can be and I proved this to a supervisor who was giving me a bad time for speeding in my patrol car...465 in afternoon traffic ...I put myself in the left lane and set my cruise on 55, the posted the speed limit...in about 15 minutes of this style of driving I had traffic backed up for miles...trust me, you are better off when I am speeding, just fall in behind me and get over it....its a job, someone tells us where we need to patrol, where we need to slow people down, how much paper we should write, respond to "calls for service" such as toughguy beating his wife, choking his neighbor over the dog barking, threatening Franc for being honest...or telling Lee, a police officer, to F....himself.......but all in all its a job, and there are good ones and there are bad ones just like any other job...now that my law enforcement career is coming to close and my trucking business has taken off...things are a lot more calm...I'll just run over your @ss now rather than stop you....LOL>>>
All this time I thought it was the construction holding things up towards the airport on 465. Thanks for doing a tough job
 
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