Edited to state issue is resolved after finally finding pin 7 bent.
Thanks to all.



Ok, my turn. I bought a 2006 crossfire roadster this spring. The guy I bought it from admitted lots of stuff doesn’t work, including door locks, trunk, gas door, top, spoiler.


I read so many posts on here my head was swimming.

Ok, step one, I got into the trunk, from there I did the removal of the foot on the electric trunk lock and also replaced the lock control module down in the bottom right side of trunk. Yay, now I can open the gas door and get gas, and the locks work now.
Found the spoiler would go up but not back down. Investigated and found one of the travel sense switches had fallen out of place, glued and secured that and fixed the spoiler.
Now onto the top, it did nothing. Tested the latch switch over windshield, it was bad. Got new one and now when I unlatch the handle, the windows go down, but no top action. Tested, cleaned and lubed all the other micro switches I could find and studied wiring and previous posts and found out the little motor inside the electric trunk lock switch was bad so the top didn’t know the position of it (I had already removed the plastic foot) I replaced the electric solenoid on the latch and now is where I need the help.
The top will now close on its own power, but after it gets halfway up it starts beeping until it completes and the windows go up.



It will not open on its own, just beeps, but if I unlatch the hex latch in trunk, make sure divider is back up, manually pull up back of top and unlatch the front of the tonneau cover and pull it up, and drop top into rear area, the system will finish the process for me, including raising the windows.
I have done the car running manual open and close a few times, also unplugged battery to see if error stored.
Looking for some further guidance.

 

Have you checked the hydraulic fluid reservoir to see how much is in it?
It's located behind the left side wheel well.

 

Yes fluid is near full.
Just did the manual open and close with engine running. No change
It will go up completely from start to finish with closing windows on its own.
It will not attempt to open after I pull d ring and Windows go down hitting switch it beeps.
If I initiate manual open by unlocking hex in trunk and lifting back window and then releasing tonneau cover and at that point if I press the down switch it will put top away and close and latch tonneau and put windows back up on its own.

 

Have you tried bypassing the trunk divider switch?
just short the wires together and try it. If it works the switch is bad.

 

I will tomorrow. I have noticed though that when I drop the divider to manually release the rear bow it starts to beep until I put it back up (at least I think it does, will shirt wires tomorrow
Thanks

 

Your opening post makes it clear (if I read it correctly): Either the divider switch OR the top open switch is bad.
In THIS thread: convertible top switches (see post five), I make this clear:

This is important - if you have a top that won't go down, try putting it down manually (see post 9). Then, try raising it. If it goes UP but not DOWN, it is reasonable to assume the issue is the top open switch OR the divider switch. And we already know that if there is a problem with EITHER of these two switches, it is almost ALWAYS the divider switch.

THe text leading up to that explains why this is. I know it's a long read, but if you want to fix this yourself, you MUST understand how the system works.

 

I have read that whole thread, I had ohm tested both switches to no avail. I just this minute jumped both the divider switch and the top open switches, also to no avail. Following your lead tomorrow I will test the pins at the top control module to make sure it is seeing the completed circuit.

The only other input I have is that when I am manually opening the top and I am holding the tonneau cover back to let the top fall in, the system beeps, but only while I hold the tonneau cover all the way back, if I let it come forward a bit, the beeping stops. I don't know if it's relevant

 

"The only other input I have is that when I am manually opening the top and I am holding the tonneau cover back to let the top fall in, the system beeps, but only while I hold the tonneau cover all the way back, if I let it come forward a bit, the beeping stops. I don't know if it's relevant"


Travel sensors on the main cylinders?

 

I have just established that the divider switch and top open switches function. I also determined that ground is seen at ptcm pin c1-7 as expected when those switches are closed.

 

That makes sense, but I don't know how to test them

 

Go to this link, go to service manuals, go to 2005 service manuals and download the file. In the manual go to the body section, near the back, and check pages 23-49 - 23-100. There is quite a lot of info on the convertible top sensors.

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...s-repairs.html

 

Thanks, I have downloaded all the manuals and electrical diag charts. I don't see how I would begin to go forward without the drb3. I don't think the hall effect switches can be tested for continuity like the microswitch s.
Rick

 

I am also struggling understanding how it can close completely on its own ( although it does start beeping as the top moves forward, but completes by itself) and also finish the open sequence for me after I have unlatched and raised rear bow and raised tonneau cover if there was a travel sensor issue

 

I have used an ohm meter to make sure each wire is good from the ptcm to the travel sensor connector. I did ohm the sensors at the connector but they all read zero through them so I don’t know how else to test them. They all read the same though so I think they are ok.
so close and yet so far away.

 

Trying to figure this out I redid the process of manually putting the roof up and down 4 times with the key on. I have a question for those familiar with this process.
Is it normal for the system to beep at different points during the process for a few seconds? I am hoping for some clues into what is my issue.

 

And to wrap this up, after everyone saying it had to be pin 7 not showing ground... I had been checking for it in the wire. I finally pulled the connector and these old eyes finally saw the bent pin. Thanks everyone

 

Thank you for posting the solution. Can you add a photo of the location of pin 7 ?

 

No, I won't unplug it again for fear of breaking the pin. But it is the PTCM connector 1, pin 7. The PTCM is in the left side of trunk.

 

I'm glad that you found the problem.
Thanks for the update!