All Crossfires A place to discuss any model of the Crossfire.

Electrical issues!!!

Thread Tools
 
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 05-22-2019, 11:51 PM
PAMLRLTN's Avatar
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Electrical issues!!!

Originally Posted by pizzaguy
It is my understanding that the BCM is generic and has no specific information in it, a BCM is a BCM.

NOW, I do believe the SRT and Base/Limited BCMs are different, but I can't say that for sure. If you car is an SRT, get a BCM from an SRT - if not an SRT make sure the BCM didn't come from an SRT.

I THINK I read that the Coupe and Roadster take the same BCM, which surprises me, because the BCM in the Roadster has control over the windows when you move the top.

Just get a BCM from the same configuration (coupe or roadster) and trim level (SRT or Base/Limited) and you should be fine.
Ok thank you so much for this very useful info. I’ve ordered the bcm and will keep everyone posted on whether or not this has fixed my issues
 
  #22 (permalink)  
Old 05-23-2019, 08:49 AM
zip439's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: SE Alabama
Age: 75
Posts: 1,814
Received 188 Likes on 156 Posts
Default Re: Electrical issues!!!

If you pull the BCM out of your car the part number is easily seen on the case of the BCM. Replace it with the same part number. I'm skeptical of electrical parts on ebay. If the part number matches at redline I think you will get a good part.

If you have damage from rodents the test of fuse 19 as I outlined in the third post will go a long way on clarifying your problem.
 

Last edited by zip439; 05-23-2019 at 08:53 AM.
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 05-23-2019, 11:31 AM
PAMLRLTN's Avatar
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Electrical issues!!!

Originally Posted by zip439
If you pull the BCM out of your car the part number is easily seen on the case of the BCM. Replace it with the same part number. I'm skeptical of electrical parts on ebay. If the part number matches at redline I think you will get a good part.

If you have damage from rodents the test of fuse 19 as I outlined in the third post will go a long way on clarifying your problem.
Ok I’m going to check the voltage in fuse 19 and can I pull the bcm carefully on my own or should a repair shop do it? Also the seller has a free return policy if the part is not operable or does not match my vehicle so that’s a plus for me
 
  #24 (permalink)  
Old 05-23-2019, 12:51 PM
zip439's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: SE Alabama
Age: 75
Posts: 1,814
Received 188 Likes on 156 Posts
Default Re: Electrical issues!!!

Yes, You can pull the BCM. You will first want to disconnected the negative battery cable and be certain it does not slip and hit any part of the car that can carry electrical current. Look at post #9, and click on the link. It will show you a picture of exactly what you are looking at. The link talks about the RCM, but you want the BCM. Once you have the lid off the large plastic box the BCM is the one close to the fender. It will be difficult to pull the wired connectors off of the module. Take your time and do it carefully; Do not pull on the wires. Look for any locking clips on the sides of the electrical connectors which must be disengaged before you pull. Get a hold of the plastic connector and pull up on it.

If all this seems too much. Try an independent european specialist garage. Let them first test for power at fuse #19 and if that is good then disconnect the battery and change out the BCM. One hour labor max or their minimum charge. If you have damage to your wiring because of rodents, then you are into much more in the cost to repair.
GOOD LUCK
 

Last edited by zip439; 05-23-2019 at 12:53 PM.
  #25 (permalink)  
Old 05-29-2019, 08:22 PM
PAMLRLTN's Avatar
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Electrical issues!!!

Originally Posted by zip439
Yes, You can pull the BCM. You will first want to disconnected the negative battery cable and be certain it does not slip and hit any part of the car that can carry electrical current. Look at post #9, and click on the link. It will show you a picture of exactly what you are looking at. The link talks about the RCM, but you want the BCM. Once you have the lid off the large plastic box the BCM is the one close to the fender. It will be difficult to pull the wired connectors off of the module. Take your time and do it carefully; Do not pull on the wires. Look for any locking clips on the sides of the electrical connectors which must be disengaged before you pull. Get a hold of the plastic connector and pull up on it.

If all this seems too much. Try an independent european specialist garage. Let them first test for power at fuse #19 and if that is good then disconnect the battery and change out the BCM. One hour labor max or their minimum charge. If you have damage to your wiring because of rodents, then you are into much more in the cost to repair.
GOOD LUCK
I wouldn’t mind trying it myself but I would much rather take it to a professional so as not to damage anything else. Are there any shops in the Allentown, pa area or Pennsylvania period that are recommended
 
  #26 (permalink)  
Old 07-13-2019, 09:21 AM
RED DOG's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Key Largo FL . . . The fabulous Florida Keys
Age: 75
Posts: 2,876
Received 28 Likes on 25 Posts
Default Re: Electrical issues!!!

So . . . What was the outcome of your problem here? Inquiring minds want to know . . . I'm researching a BCM problem for another Crossfire friend . . . He has an NA roadster. If someone can send me a photo of all the number on a BCM from an NA roadster, that would be helpful.

Thanks,
 
  #27 (permalink)  
Old 10-30-2019, 12:32 PM
Sennaspirit's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Magnolia, DE
Age: 65
Posts: 1,080
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default Re: Electrical issues!!!

I'm with RED DOG, please post an update about what you've learned about your BCM issues.

I'm dealing with a driver side window that stops working intermittently (will work for 6 months, then it stops working for a few weeks). I finally ran some tests and all roads lead to the BCM being the culprit. I recently moved so I have not experience with the local dealerships and am not sure that chrysler guys even know about xfires anymore. I'm asking around for an independent mechanic with Merc experience to work with on this issue.
 
  #28 (permalink)  
Old 10-30-2019, 02:15 PM
PAMLRLTN's Avatar
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Electrical issues!!!

Hi guys! Sorry for the delay. So I have taken my car to 4 different shops , 1 being a Chrysler dealer ( which knows ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about our cars ) and none have found the issue as of yet . I switched out the bcm with another bcm I purchased and the the problem still existed. Not sure if the part number matters or what . It is currently at the 4th shop that is going to check for a loose or damaged wire. This may take some time so I will keep you guys posted.
 
  #29 (permalink)  
Old 10-30-2019, 03:09 PM
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Davenport Florida
Age: 62
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Default Re: Electrical issues!!!

Here are a couple independent Mercedes service centers around Allentown.

https://www.schearers.com/service-ex...UaAgKTEALw_wcB

https://starservicecentermb.com/
 
  #30 (permalink)  
Old 10-30-2019, 03:50 PM
PAMLRLTN's Avatar
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Electrical issues!!!

Thank you so much ! I will definitely check them out and let you know how everything went
 
  #31 (permalink)  
Old 10-31-2019, 09:04 AM
zip439's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: SE Alabama
Age: 75
Posts: 1,814
Received 188 Likes on 156 Posts
Default Re: Electrical issues!!!

Originally Posted by PAMLRLTN
Hi guys! Sorry for the delay. So I have taken my car to 4 different shops , 1 being a Chrysler dealer ( which knows ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about our cars ) and none have found the issue as of yet . I switched out the bcm with another bcm I purchased and the the problem still existed. Not sure if the part number matters or what . It is currently at the 4th shop that is going to check for a loose or damaged wire. This may take some time so I will keep you guys posted.
I would only replace the BCM with another of the same part number. YES, it will take some time to hunt around for the exact number, but it is out there somewhere.
Certainly models are different; do the circuits for the windows on each models BCM circuit boards work identically. I do not know, but it is certainly less expensive to use only a BCM replacement with the same number, than to continue this hunt for a repair solution with a BCM that may or may not be compatible.
 
  #32 (permalink)  
Old 10-31-2019, 10:59 AM
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: back hills of NY
Age: 85
Posts: 134
Received 6 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: Electrical issues!!!

In your shop travels , stop by Harbor Freight & get a volt meter for under $10 -- one of the little red ones .
Some times they give them away w/ a purchase . It should do everything you are hiring folks to do once u learn how to use it .
 
  #33 (permalink)  
Old 11-06-2019, 10:21 PM
Sennaspirit's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Magnolia, DE
Age: 65
Posts: 1,080
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default Re: Electrical issues!!!

No worries, thanks for posting an update.

The Merc dealer near me said they will work on xFires so I brought it over to them to have a look. They ran some tests on it and said that they don't feel comfortable messing with the BCM, so they drove it over to their Chrysler shop (they own 4 dealerships all side by side) to have a look. I'll get an update tomorrow
 
  #34 (permalink)  
Old 11-12-2019, 11:32 AM
Sennaspirit's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Magnolia, DE
Age: 65
Posts: 1,080
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default Re: Electrical issues!!!

The Merc dealer said the problem is definitely in the BCM but that this was something the Chrysler techs need to deal with, so they took it over to their Chrysler guys who said they cannot identify the issue (why it's not working). I took the car to inspection anyway and it worked while there, so I've got some time to sort this out. Any BCM pros out there, please chime. In the meantime I'm going to buy used BCM and see what if I can make it work.
 
  #35 (permalink)  
Old 09-22-2022, 06:29 PM
PAMLRLTN's Avatar
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Electrical issues!!!

Hi. Where can I get a bcm for a limited model instead of redline
 
  #36 (permalink)  
Old 09-22-2022, 07:39 PM
pizzaguy's Avatar
Administrator
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Age: 64
Posts: 13,469
Received 888 Likes on 692 Posts
Default Re: Electrical issues!!!

Originally Posted by PAMLRLTN
Hi. Where can I get a bcm for a limited model instead of redline
You can buy used junk on eBay. But you shouldn't.
You can look for a parts car either here on the forum or at a salvage yard.

I know of no source for a new one.

 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
TRR
Audio, Video and Electronics
3
07-15-2014 05:17 PM
Istrix
Crossfire Coupe
4
06-04-2014 10:27 AM
TulsaXFire
Crossfire Coupe
22
07-08-2010 09:46 PM
thejodbut
Crossfire SRT6
12
10-23-2008 11:48 AM
marklodi
Crossfire Coupe
18
08-03-2008 02:05 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: Electrical issues!!!



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:06 AM.