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Old Sep 17, 2013 | 12:35 PM
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Should there be an beep or some alert to let you know when the doors lock or are unlocked with the key fob? The only sound I hear is the click or the locking mechanism and I have to be very close to hear that. Just wondering if my beep tone or whatever has been disabled and if so how do I reactivate it? Every other car that I have driven with remote locks has some sort of beep or horn sound when doors are locked or unlocked.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2013 | 12:39 PM
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https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ght=TONE+ALERT
 
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Old Sep 17, 2013 | 12:54 PM
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MB actually disables it... why? I have no idea, but supposedly it's a simple change in star das and once my car is on the road I will have more time to figure out what else is hidden in there.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2013 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by gualtira
Should there be an beep or some alert to let you know when the doors lock or are unlocked with the key fob? The only sound I hear is the click or the locking mechanism and I have to be very close to hear that. Just wondering if my beep tone or whatever has been disabled and if so how do I reactivate it? Every other car that I have driven with remote locks has some sort of beep or horn sound when doors are locked or unlocked.
The newer alarm modules have that feature.
You can add the cheap RadioShack beeper across the locking relay like most of us have.

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...lert-tone.html
 
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Old Sep 17, 2013 | 01:29 PM
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the lights flash good enough for me !!! I like to be differant & dont want the beep !!!!
 
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Old Sep 17, 2013 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sk8erjosh09
MB actually disables it... why? I have no idea, but supposedly it's a simple change in star das and once my car is on the road I will have more time to figure out what else is hidden in there.
As mentioned above the newer and more expensive alarm modules do beep. What I find strange is someone posted pics of the two modules which had exactly the same part numbers on them (Mercedes and Chrysler), one beeped and the old one did not. But this is not the Chrysler number he says to use.

The OP says what the new Chrysler is but that number is not the Chrysler number that appears on the parts. See this thread.

The part number he says you should use to get the beep is the same part number that is in the Part Numbers Manual. It is the part that was called for from day one.

Why would one beep and the other not? What am I missing?


 
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Old Sep 17, 2013 | 02:56 PM
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As mentioned above the newer and more expensive alarm modules do beep. What I find strange is someone posted pics of the two modules which had exactly the same part numbers on them (Mercedes and Chrysler), one beeped and the old one did not. But this is not the Chrysler number he says to use.

The OP says what the new Chrysler is but that number is not the Chrysler number that appears on the parts. See this thread.

The part number he says you should use to get the beep is the same part number that is in the Part Numbers Manual. It is the part that was called for from day one.

Why would one beep and the other not? What am I missing?

Software is all I can think of. One is pre-coded to beep the other isn't. I know in DAS it's just a setting based off countries. On MBWorld they call it "The Netherlands mod".
 
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Old Sep 17, 2013 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sk8erjosh09
Software is all I can think of. One is pre-coded to beep the other isn't. I know in DAS it's just a setting based off countries. On MBWorld they call it "The Netherlands mod".
That cannot be it, the guy and others, just put the siren in and it beeped, the siren that was in there did not. To my thinking that means the software is already configured to beep.
I can only assume that the OEM siren in the crossfire did not have that capability.
Or, that the pins on the siren were differently configured and thus did not operate the beep. I think software does not come into it other than what I mentioned above.
Or, they saved money and replaced there original intended part with some cheap and obsolescent sirens. (Say it isn't so.)


Years back people were convinced that changing the program would make it beep, all attempts failed. It may be possible that programing changes may switch it off, no one has said the new siren did not beep.

Similarly the DRL feature was thought to be a program mod, it was found that a different part was required. People paid good money only to be told that it could not be done even though they were first assured that it could.

Netherlands mod? Is that when you replace all of the bulbs with tulips? (forgive me, I've used that line before)
 

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Old Sep 17, 2013 | 04:08 PM
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***Put the thread on hold, I have a complaint***

I am sick of hearing people's horn honk when they lock their car.
If we can get it to chirp, fine. But tooting the damn horn is nonsense.


***I return you to your thread.***
 
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Old Sep 17, 2013 | 04:10 PM
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***Put the thread on hold, I have a complaint***

I am sick of hearing people's horn honk when they lock their car.
If we can get it to chirp, fine. But tooting the damn horn is nonsense.


***I return you to your thread.***
Luckily we have few members here who toot their own horn, so we should not worry too much.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2013 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
That cannot be it, the guy and others, just put the siren in and it beeped, the siren that was in there did not. To my thinking that means the software is already configured to beep.
I can only assume that the OEM siren in the crossfire did not have that capability.
Or, that the pins on the siren were differently configured and thus did not operate the beep. I think software does not come into it other than what I mentioned above.
Or, they saved money and replaced there original intended part with some cheap and obsolescent sirens. (Say it isn't so.)

Years back people were convinced that changing the program would make it beep, all attempts failed. It may be possible that programing changes may switch it off, no one has said the new siren did not beep.

Similarly the DRL feature was thought to be a program mod, it was found that a different part was required. People paid good money only to be told that it could not be done even though they were first assured that it could.

Netherlands mod? Is that when you replace all of the bulbs with tulips? (forgive me, I've used that line before)

Hmmm... I'll have to give it a shot when my star das is up and running...

The R170 guys were able to get somewhere:

Reasons why Netherlands mode won't work - Page 2 - Benzworld.org - Mercedes-Benz Discussion Forum

hey guys with the netherlands alarm setting - Benzworld.org - Mercedes-Benz Discussion Forum

And this is where I got instructions:

Netherlands setting: This has been asked a billion times before but..... - MBWorld.org Forums
 
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Old Sep 17, 2013 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sk8erjosh09
Hmmm... I'll have to give it a shot when my star das is up and running...

The R170 guys were able to get somewhere:
I cannot see what you will try to do. One part beeps and the other part does not.
That tells me the feature is set to work.
The only possibility is that with three wires the program has to change on one part so that a different pair of wires are selected for each event. This could explain why one works and the other does not. Frankly though I doubt it.

I am at a loss to explain why the OP managed to buy a part with the MB and Chrysler numbers identical to his original part after buying a totally different Chrysler numbered part, presumably that new part number was on the sticker on the bag.

The layout of the engraving and printing is different and the other numbers do not correspond to each other but the MB and Chrysler parts are the same on both.


 
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Old Sep 17, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
I cannot see what you will try to do. One part beeps and the other part does not.
That tells me the feature is set to work.
The only possibility is that with three wires the program has to change on one part so that a different pair of wires are selected for each event. This could explain why one works and the other does not. Frankly though I doubt it.

I am at a loss to explain why the OP managed to buy a part with the MB and Chrysler numbers identical to his original part after buying a totally different Chrysler numbered part, presumably that new part number was on the sticker on the bag.

The layout of the engraving and printing is different and the other numbers do not correspond to each other but the MB and Chrysler parts are the same on both.

Look at the How-to pdf. The reason it wouldn't surprise me if it was software is the same reason the NA V8 wouldn't work factory for Lantanas swap. Internally the ECU's HW's are exactly the same, but the car wouldn't start from the key, have cruise control or stop looking for the TCU. It's all software.

It's truly amazing everything you can do in DAS, like the fact that all of our car's are loaded with the "base map", then they have 87, 89, and 91 octane maps (in RON). If you virginize the KA then you can change the odometer to whatever you wan't. You can sync KA's (instrument clusters) from one car to another with your mileage displayed. On some cars with Headlight modules you can make them angle based off yaw sensor readings, you know, turn when you turn, angle down for downhill etc... You can make the interior lights turn on when you unlock the car, or not.

Our cars have a lot of programming in them, you just can't access any of it without DAS, and even then you still have to find the settings lol. The part that gets me is that Mercedes doesn't activate some of it...

You could be right though 180, it may not be possible. If not I wonder if we could get ahold of the two and see differences internally? Maybe it is HW. Not sure until my DAS is back.
 
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