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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 12:49 PM
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And, before you even go there: my Crossfire is Cardinal. Try to remember that?
Scratch that previous reply....I now remember that you are a WISCONSIN guy..
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 12:58 PM
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Checked mine at lunch.. they've "wiggled" from original location on my bracket. Time for some silicone. Looked at the "flat" spot under the headlight. Don't know what kit was purchased, but my wires won't allow for it.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 01:02 PM
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Checked mine at lunch.. they've "wiggled" from original location on my bracket. Time for some silicone. Looked at the "flat" spot under the headlight. Don't know what kit was purchased, but my wires won't allow for it.
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That is what is limiting me as well. I have a Xentec kit like you, but no grommets and the wires are not very long to allow for mounting on a decent, flat surface. I checked last night after driving and one side (drivers) had actually fallen off of the 3M tape. So I made dang sure that I attached it with even more (tape that is). I may end up trying to find a bracket, but not sure where to look for one that would fit the Xentec (slim ballast) kit.?
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 01:28 PM
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I checked last night after driving and one side (drivers) had actually fallen off of the 3M tape. So I made dang sure that I attached it with even more (tape that is).
the amount of tape is not as necessary as the prep of where you place it. If you use a heavy duty cleaner/degreaser on both the ballast and piece you are sticking it to, it will hold like super glue (if the piece is glossy, rough it up a little before cleaning). I have had several attached this way for well over a year, and have done multiple track days where the car got put through its paces when it is 95+ degrees out, no signs the tape will not hold.

It is serious stuff, just needs to be prepped correctly for best adhesion. Hope this helps...
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 01:36 PM
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Since there is not much stress or force with this application.. Metal strapping? Stuff with the holes punched all down it.. would let you mount it to a stud, tape, and couple small dabs of silicon on the backside where holes will allow?

Just a thought...


Mine were actually brackets from an old tent style gazeebo.. knew I hung onto the hardware for a reason when the wind took it down.. LOL.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 01:41 PM
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the amount of tape is not as necessary as the prep of where you place it. If you use a heavy duty cleaner/degreaser on both the ballast and piece you are sticking it to, it will hold like super glue (if the piece is glossy, rough it up a little before cleaning). I have had several attached this way for well over a year, and have done multiple track days where the car got put through its paces when it is 95+ degrees out, no signs the tape will not hold.

It is serious stuff, just needs to be prepped correctly for best adhesion. Hope this helps...
Ah good deal...thx! If they do happen to shift around again I am going to re-tape and ensure that the surfaces are prepped like you are saying.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 08:09 AM
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9006 bulb seems too long to fit in the foglight and i already broke one bulb. any ideas?
 
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Old Apr 18, 2012 | 10:32 AM
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9006 bulb seems too long to fit in the foglight and i already broke one bulb. any ideas?
If it's hitting the reflector/shield cap, it is too long.

How does it compare to the halogen you took out?
 
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 11:04 PM
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I almost have the HID headlight install finished.

Does everything look ok so far with the pics below? Ugly silicone job but the headlights are sealed. I hope I can fit all the wires inside the housings without trouble.

Also, the blue wire from the older ballast and the red wire from the new ballast are the positives but what polarity is the factory plug that they plug into? Do I plug the main headlight factory harness to the outside of the headlight assemby and test these interal blulb plugs with a meter to check for +/-?

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Old May 1, 2012 | 12:19 AM
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Looks like your on track here.. but pay double attention to seating those bulbs! Could have sworn mine seated.. till dark and time to use them. My drivers side looked like it was hitting the ground 5 feet in front of the car. Played with it the next day and felt it hit the sweet spot.
Here's some info I dug up..


The single black is the positive
the double black is the negative

Also..

i've connected a few hid kits from different cars, polarity doesn't really matter (you can connect the red or black to either pos or negative). the ballast is just a step up transformer, just boosts voltage to 1k or something. diff for diff brands.
 
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Old May 1, 2012 | 10:47 AM
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Thanks, huge help.
 
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Old May 10, 2012 | 03:58 PM
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I installed HID lows and highs. Ordered the TSB foggy headlight kit with the 4 each plugs and the 2 each caps. I siliconed the heck out of the front and back of the caps where the HID wires pass through.

2 issues,

1. headlights are aimed too high (yes the bulbs are seated correctly) all 4 bulbs are too high and both sides are equal. I saw a post about using an easy out for the vertical adjustment screw access.... Can this be done with the headlight housings in?

2. The headlight housings are still fogging up even after the headlight TSB kit plugs and caps. Is there a possibility or way to check the lense from housing seal?
 
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Old May 10, 2012 | 05:05 PM
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I installed HID lows and highs. Ordered the TSB foggy headlight kit with the 4 each plugs and the 2 each caps. I siliconed the heck out of the front and back of the caps where the HID wires pass through.

2 issues,

1. headlights are aimed too high (yes the bulbs are seated correctly) all 4 bulbs are too high and both sides are equal. I saw a post about using an easy out for the vertical adjustment screw access.... Can this be done with the headlight housings in?

2. The headlight housings are still fogging up even after the headlight TSB kit plugs and caps. Is there a possibility or way to check the lense from housing seal?
1, Then the bulbs are made incorrectly I guess. Up and down adjustment is done with the screw, with the bulbs in is fine.

2, I assume you dried the lights out before sealing the moisture in, so the leak is coming from some place else. I think that some can come in around the seal between the the lens and the black housing, a silicone bead around that joint may work. How long before the moisture reappeared? Was it in the rain at all? These are clues. How much water showed up?

When you cut the membrane on the new covers to pass the wires through you removed the breathing ability of the housing. I think there may be a small patch of that material on the housing, if not then the bulb heat will warm up the air and it will escape. When the air cools it will suck in air and possibly moisture from somewhere else to maintain the air pressure inside and out. You may be advised to add one of the old vents.

Otherwise ?????
 

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Old May 10, 2012 | 05:27 PM
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The two screws attaching the bottom of the headlight housings were removed as well as the two upper ones. Could I have thrown this out of alignment by removing and re-installing them? I also lowered the rear suspension more than the front..... Anybody know which **** does what behind these headlamp assemblies? All threads I searched didn't have this listed.

The lenses were completely dry when I installed the HID's and applied the sealing TSB kit. The car stayed in the garage for another week after that, then as soon as I washed it, both time is three days, the inside of the lenses were foggy. I double checked the seals and they appeared to all be in place as they should. The fogginess goes away in about 5-6 hours after that.
 
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Old May 10, 2012 | 06:08 PM
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........... I also lowered the rear suspension more than the front.....
Don't you think this would do it?
 
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Old May 11, 2012 | 08:29 AM
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Were instructions included with the cap kit? Did you follow the procedure for forcing the moisture out of the housings? If only a few 0.1 cc's of water are trapped in there, it will evaporate and condense for-bloody-ever until properly removed.

Just sayin'...
 

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Old May 11, 2012 | 09:14 AM
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Personally, I would get a bag or two of silica desiccant, tie a string around them (or something similar), throw them in the headlight housing, seal them back up, and let them sit for a day or two. You will not have any more moisture inside the housing this way
 
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Old May 11, 2012 | 09:31 AM
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Great ideas. However, the moisutre evaporates out in a half day. If it fogs up only when being washed or in the rain ( i imagine) and then evaporates that quick, there must be an opening somewhere? If not the caps then the housing?
 
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Old May 11, 2012 | 10:05 AM
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Not necessarily. It can condense on the clear covers when they are cooler, like when they are washed with the car. Then as they heat up, just little, tiny bit, it will evaporate into the internal atmosphere of the housing and condense elsewhere, out of sight.

Did you follow the directions? There's a reason they come with it. If the dealer didn't print them out for you, they should have.

If you cover the entire inner surface of the clear covers with "mist", it would equal about 1-2 drops (0.1-0.2 cc) of liquid water.

Trust me. I'm not a doctor, but I saw one once!
 
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Old May 11, 2012 | 11:40 AM
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There were no instructions. I guess I'll pull the caps off and use a hair dryer. I have a heat gun but that is a lot of heat for this application right?
 
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