Actually, I think its completely fine for a well-built AMG engine. That engine is probably in much better condition than an SRT-6 that has some woman driving it that barely presses the gas and never 'burns the cobwebs' out of it. Heck, it takes good pedal mashing to even suck the oil vapor out of the crankcase through the intake, a sissy driver will never do that and sludge starts building up.

Trust me, your car is probably doing great, especially at 18.5K miles. I'd just get prepared to replace some things in the next 20K miles. I'm at 30K and I've done.... New fuel pump, fuel filter, magnecor spark wires, drive belt, spark plugs, and IC pump. Given how hard the car has been driven, I'd do a tranny fluid change (but read up very carefully on fluid filling as you might not be capable). Mercedes' TSB says to do it at 40K, I'd do it ASAP, including a filter change and pan gasket, and honestly you'll be set for life with the tranny after that. Also, change the oil.

You're in good shape.

 

I've probably beaten on mine harder than that with weekends at the road courses. Pushing between 30 and 110 mph for 20 minutes a session... eight sessions a weekend. Granted I've only been to four events, so I'm not an expert. But I also flog the poor thing regularly when I drive it on the street. I believe in getting up to the speed limit as fast as possible... more often than not, exceeding it and having to back down.

I'll be getting my second set of front tires since the original purchase in the next few months... and I've only owned the car about 2½ years and I've broken 50k miles on the clock.

Others have flogged the standard M112 engines terribly and they just keep going. Just ask Woody in Europe and HDDP about that...

 

congrats on the car, we werent aware abe sold it
be careful as its a mean little car

 

The dealer probably had no idea how this car was driven, and I would be shocked if they gave you type of money back or anything else. It's not the dealers responsibility to investigate the history and disclose everything.

I don't think you should worry about the warranty, and the was built to drive aggressively.

I'm a little surprised that YOU seem surprised that it was modified and driven hard. Didn't you wonder how the rear tires got bald?

 

While I agree the dealer didn't know the extent of the alterations and abuse to the car they do have some accountability. I paid a premium and bought this car specifically because it has a valid warranty. They sold the car with the valid warranty being a strong purchasing value point. I did not get what was promised and what I paid extra to have... a valid warranty.

With that said they are working with me. Fortunately they are a top notch dealer. They feel really bad about it as well and want to come to a mutually agreeable resolution.

Although i did notice the tires needed to be replaced I figured that even if the car was raced some i wouldnt worry as it would be under warranty. I don't think many folks would make the jump from original worn tires of 18K to equating to a highly moddified car to which the warranty was technically voided. Sorry my crystal ball never worked that good.

Well see what the end result is... at least they are not turning their backs to me.

 

Hi can u guys explain to me the significance of this particular car??? I really don;t understand whats so different about this particular car?
thanks

 

The previous owner was one of the first to get into the 12's in the quarter mile.

 

And it was a 12.2. For a while, he had the fastest SRT6 in the world.

 

I still don't understand the "voided warranty" argument that you continue to make. Did you check with Chrysler, and the car has been denied warranty claims in the past? Is it just the fact that it's modified?

I'm very surprised the dealer is working with you. Regardless of how the car was "presented" to you, it's your responsibility to have the car inspected prior to purchase.

I also don't get why anyone would buy a used high powered sports car, and not think that it was driven hard and/or at the very least slightly modified.

Good luck.

 

Dude, go find an SRT6 with super low miles so you'll finally be happy and not have to worry about what the previous owner did.

 

The warranty book clearly states that if the car is raced or used for racing purposes, the warranty is void.

But if the previous owner raced it and this was not disclosed by the dealer - then I don't see how the dealer could then void the warranty.

I would ask for an "premium extended warranty" with zero deductible as compensation and the dealers good faith that they sold a reliable car.

Then don't race the car or add any other mods...

It's a great car and you'll be happy with it - it's not like CHI/Town beat it to death....He took great care with the car..

 

The problem is that he bought this from an independent used car dealer, so while they could provide an extended warranty it may or may not be "honored" by either the warranty company or the shop handling the potential repair.

Unless this car was taken to a Chrysler dealership, and denied a previous warranty repair because of modifications and/or abuse then the original warranty will still be honored by Chrysler. He could easily contact a Chrysler dealership, and say he's interested in buying the car, but wants to know the service history. They should be able to provide a history of each time the vehicle was serviced at a Chrysler dealership.

I think the OP is just frustrated at buying a car that he feels was "abused", and is using the possibility of a voided warranty to get a discount, extended warranty, or even a refund.

 

If the car was raced and held up well to it then I would say it was broken in and should be trouble free. I doubt the original owner treated the car like crap, if he did it would be falling apart now.

Heck my old car that I boosted from 170hp to 350hp is still going strong and I raced it all the time. It now has almost 80,000 miles on it and it still drives like new. It is all about how you take care of it. Of course if they void his warranty I would want my $ back or at least a partial refund.

 

Yeah its important to understand Chrysler's warranty has no relation to where you bought the car from or who modded it. All they care about is the actual car and if its modded or not, end of story. His warranty is void, I guarantee it.

But most importantly he needs to realize his car probably (knock on wood) won't have a major problem. These engines are strong. The OP needs to have some wrench skills and be ready to fix small things that I listed in my previous post, which any owner of any car should be able to do and avoid the dealer.

Coming from me, someone who panics about everything, it must mean something when I say don't worry.

 

Hit the SEMA home page and you will see the auto aftermarket law that prevents the dealers from voiding your warranty for an unrelated part. For example your radio goes out and they blame your aftermarket pulley. Or your stock pulley goes out and they blame your aftermarket radio. They have to prove a product caused the specific problem if any. For you that are datalogging, record often and keep them as evidence your vehicle is operating at safe levels.

 

Umm ok "dude"

Obviously you have the mindset of a teenager and as such I will ignore your useless sarcasm.

 

Nope not the case at all. I'm doing everyhting I can to try to keep it. I knew I was buying a used car and that it would have some history. What i did not know was that the extra money I was paying for "still under warranty" was compromised to the extent that it could easily be denied warranty repair. I am completely aware that for almost all warranty work I would have no problem, but you can be rest assured if the engine popped or the tranny went they would do everything possible to not have to cover it. Not because it was raced but because it was modified outside of what is accepted.. eg, intakes are ok, boosting more or ecu reflash is not 100%

I don't get your hostility Indyjoe. I am not asking for anything that was not specifically promised when i purchased the car.

 

I'm not trying to argue here, but I just want to bring up an important point on this law. It DOES NOT protect you from the dealer voiding warranty. The dealer can always void the warranty. In fact, they can say you're too ugly so that is what ruined your interior, or something like that.

What the law does is gives you a right to sue them in court if their reason for warranty void really is unacceptable. So the question becomes... Who actually takes the dealer to court? It costs money, and takes time, and if they fight back considerably then you'll need a lawyer which is more time and more money. Soon you're over the price of the repairs AND you may end up losing anyways.

So remember, the law DOES NOT protect you unless you enforce it in a court. If you're like everyone else, including me, then what the dealer says is final. Besides some griping and complaining, 99% of people will not take it as far as court.

So be careful when thinking the law is all you need....





On another note, and I know this will sound bad.... I do not think the OP is entitled to anything from the dealer he bought it from. The reason is the car really does have a warranty just like the dealer said it did. its not their call to say if Chrysler will or will not honor that warranty. Theoretically speaking, there are many parts on the car the dealer will still warranty, regardless of mods. The independant dealer really did nothing wrong, even if it was a little malicious if they knew the car was modded.

Like I said before, the OP is probably in good shape anyways and shouldn't worry.

 

I have that affect on people. I still got it baby.

 

Oh the irony! My car just broke down and is at Crysler dealer. I guess I'm going to get my answer to the hot question. The water pump pulley failed and also ruined the water pump because of how it sheared. Thy said they wher suprised because they never seen this before in this car. Here is my concern and question. The ASP kit does it Not use an altered sized pulley system? I know it changes a few pullies to allow for still using the stock belt, is the water pump pulley one of them?